this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
616 points (92.0% liked)
Memes
45540 readers
778 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
"Well, everybody except for political dissidents, minorities, Jews, anyone who openly disagrees with me, and anyone I suspect of privately disagreeing with me".
Reminder to all my queer friends that homosexuality was criminalized under Stalin's regime, and was not repealed until the Soviet Union collapsed.
Friendly reminder that that was the standard at the time.
For example, when Germany reunified lgbt people in East Germany lost all their rights.
Just call me untermensch, I know you want to you scratched liberal.
The US nationally decriminalized being gay in 2003. Fuck all the way off with US 1962.
I know there are no tone indicators over the internet so you missed the exaggeration so I'll say it again without the initial exageration- east german lgbt people lost a lot of rights during reunification
I'll bite.
What kind of rights did they lose?
The only thing I can find is the equal age of consent for same-sex relations vs hetero relations: 1988 in DDR and 1994 in Germany post unification.
Seems like a stretch to conclude that communist states were more LGBTQ-friendly based on this 6 year difference.
Look into which countries allow same-sex marriage. The only communist country that allows it now is Cuba. They legalized it almost one year ago!
That being said, communism vs capitalism is an economic discussion. It doesn't necessarily say anything about social issues.
They straight up had state sponsored gay bars and there was a massive state sponsored education campaign on lgbt people. During reunification they also lost massive economic gains, along the same line as what "why women had better sex under socialism" talks about.
Economics issues and social issues can't be isolated. Homeless queer youth are affected by economic policies.
Tbf marriage isn't as much of a priority given what rights marriage grants in Cuba. Cuba has been doing SRS for free since 2009 and has sponsored massive education and anti-bigotry campaigns. Gay marriage is important but not that important compared to a bunch of other issues.
Oh so we're applying the founding fathers owning slaves justification to queer persecution? Guess it's okay when everyone else is doing it.
Then again nevermind. I'm used to having our history downplayed by conservatives and reactionaries, including the ones that cosplay in red.
We have no choice but to keep an even more violent system because people who tried a less violent system were sometimes as homophobic as was standard at the time in most places.
Let us ignore the fact that the small island nation of Cuba has the best lgbt rights in the world. Let's ignore the fact that socialism most directly helped the poorest and most vulnerable of gay and trans people with their economic equalization in ways that "progressive" dictatorships of the bourgeoisie still don't. Let's ignore the fact that lgbt rights in the west were won by movements full of radical queer communists, not given out of the benevolence of capitalism.
Anyone with a disability as well
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa calm down with the russophobic, sinophobic, orientalist, reactionary liberal rhetoric, pal. The preferred term is "antisocial parasite".
First off, sus as fuck that you said minorities and then "Jews"
Second off, the non-Russian SSRs vote at higher rates to remain the USSR during the referendum that reaffirmed that the citizens of the USSR wanted the USSR to stay together before the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR? While there were excesses and passive russification was a problem, minorities generally liked the USSR.
Concern trolling attempt: detected and denied
Sealioning attempt: detected and denied
Forum sliding attempt: detected and denied
Failure level: embarrassing
50 Yuan: NOT deposited
Best be on your way now.
+5 FICO score
This is funny because social credit score is for businesses, and is a good thing. The west literally projects the credit score fear of the average US prole onto something that is meant to encourage businesses not to throw waste in rivers.
Also calling me a drone. First off, youre the one parroting the mainstream opinion. Second off, dehumanizing communists is right in line with scratched liberals. Commies were the first in the nazi concentration camps, dontchaknow.
Commies were the second. They went after transexuals and homosexuals first. There are just a lot more commies than queer folk.
Did you not know? There is even a Wikipedia article on it, although it messes up some of the context.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum