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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Need a plate of generic, insipid platitudes with a giant helping of bad science and misogyny?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are making the claim that he empowers young men, it's up to you to provide the evidence that proves it.

Im just going to respond to this because im kinda over this. The claim was initially made by the meme. I am questioning this, yet you are here asking me for proof of the contrary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The claim was initially made by the meme. I am questioning this, yet you are here asking me for proof of the contrary.

The claim was made by a meme with no supporting evidence, and thus can be dismissed without evidence.

The meme is also inanimate and cannot defend it's own affirmation. However, you chose to substantiate this affirmation, which means you now have the onus of burden of proof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That literally makes no sense. You have a good day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Let me explain then. If there was an ancient tablet found with the words "God is dead" on it. Would we take that at face value? No, it doesn't have any evidence to support it, there is no reason to engage in debate.

However if you suppose the tablet is correct, you would have to support that affirmation with additional supporting information. The statement of the tablet isn't self evident, so it not really a serious claim. You are making it a serious claim by supporting it, and thus must be the one to provide evidence for that claim.

This is pretty basic debate, which is usually structured into the form of affirmation vs negation. The side of the affirmation is the one making a claim( god is dead), the side of the negation responds by denying the claim and responding to supporting evidence by proposing counter arguments.

It doesn't matter that you didn't make the original claims, only that you choose the side of the affirmation.