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Clashes erupted in Sweden’s third largest city after an anti-Muslim protester set fire to the Quran, police said Monday.

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[–] Mellow12 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What if that simple “book” is viewed as the sacred words of a prophet of the largest religion in the world? Does that change the perspective a little?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Mellow12 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is why the world will burn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it will burn because of greed, aversion and delusion.

[–] Mellow12 1 points 1 year ago

I agree. All which are forms of selfishness and inconsideration of others. The actions of both sides are indefensible, but it sounds like one side escalated this situation and could have handled it with a lot more grace. They sound like just another hate group to me. The more selfish people become the more they all will devolve into ignorant, intolerant hate groups.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly the point they are making in burning it. sacred to you is not sacred to me. Thinking that they have any right to enforce their religious beliefs on anyone else is not okay, doing so violently reveals they are the villains.

If Islam wants to be part of modern society, they need to accept others are not religious, and some are vehemently against religion, and that those views, demonstrated in public, is their right too.

The core issue a lot of people have with Islam in particular is the belief that they must enforce Islamic law on others around them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Asking your beliefs be respected is not enforcing anything on to anyone else, and deliberately baiting an oppressed group for a reaction by going out of your way to disrespect them, and then pulling a surprised Pikachu face when they react is antagonistic fascist bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Responding with violence when your beliefs are disrespected is trying to enforce your beliefs on others.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Everyone sucks here. You don't need to step forward and defend people violently rioting over one person's bad behavior.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Not even a little

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Book, prophet, religion, none of these things are a justification for a riot. And let's ignore the irony of said religions preaching peace and loving thy neighbor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it were the local government gathering up and burning ALL the Quran's in the jurisdiction, that'd be one thing. This is a single private actor getting the exact response they desired, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, makes you question the credibility of that religion. Example thoughts:

  1. Why does this deity choose such a fragile medium? Why not carve the message into mountains, paint it in the sky, craft into our hearts?
  2. Why do humans argue over it, when it's a matter of the gods? If Allah thinks this book deserves protection, why can mere men burn it?
  3. If you discovered the one and only truth, established a connection to the one creator, why bother with a random jerk burning books?

It's all kindergarten squabbles while it should be untouchable sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not even a little bit.