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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This finding reminds me of the studies that found people who drank a little alcohol lived longer than those who drank no alcohol. Further investigation finds that the no alcohol group included reformed alcoholics, who has already done enough damage to their systems to shorten their life expectancy, and this extra group was enough to skew the figures.

So I think we need to ask: are there reasons to think taking <40% of calories as carbs is selecting for a group with shorter life expectancy? Maybe - anorexia would be one, although I’ve no idea of its prevalence among Japanese men.

~~The paper makes no mention of considering this sort of thing.~~ edit: correction because I can’t read the paper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Did you actually read the paper, or just its abstract?

Edit: it's a genuine question, folks. This is a science community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how could he have read the abstract? The link is a science article, not the study.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I mention that I was referring to the article?

The parent poster wrote "the paper," so I was referring to the paper. Not the article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im betting when he said paper he meant the link in the post. At least I thought so. I get what you are saying but in an internet forum I usually assume words are used in the most generic sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that just falls in the realms of opinions. I could agree with you in a different context. But in this community about scientific discussion, I'll assume the parent poster meant paper when they wrote paper.

Regardless, that's why I asked the question as a clarification.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

FWIW I think it was a fair question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm… I thought I’d read the paper, but it turned out I got confused by an abstract with multiple sections. I thought it was very short. My mistake

So I can’t say whether the authors addressed whether the low carbohydrate group was selecting for people already known to be at risk.