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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One the one hand, fuck the NYT’s smear campaign against e-bikes, but on the other hand, fuck e-bikes.

The ease of pedaling is great, they get people riding bikes, and the acceleration capacity feels a lot safer in stop and go traffic, which is nice. Obviously in the presence of cagers I will defend e-bikes, because they’re better than cars, but I have a lot of issues with them if I’m talking with other cyclists. To do 20 on a real bike, you’re at least going to have the experience to to handle the bike at those speeds. Additionally, a road bike takes some space to get up to 20- you won’t be doing that on a sidewalk or an urban bike lane, which I have seen with e-bikes.

Look up something like a Sur Ron and tell me you’d want to share a bike path (or god forbid a MUP) with a 12 year old on that 50 kilo electric motorcycle. They’re heavier, less maneuverable, and objectively more dangerous than a real bike.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not really an argument against e-bikes though, it's an argument for lowering the maximum speed they're allowed to reach using assistance from the motor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m pretty strongly against motorized vehicles on bike paths unless necessitated for accessibility.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What difference does it make if e-bikes are restricted to a speed that the average "analog" bike can easily do though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
  1. these speed limits are easily circumvented and some bikes are designed to make that possible
  2. the acceleration of an e-bike is way higher, which means that riders can get going at very high speeds in tight spaces where regular bikers couldn’t.

A better solution might be capping the power output of the rider and motor combined at something like 300W (ie a good sustained effort for a strong cyclist), and disabling power assist if the rider breaks that threshold.