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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...which is fine. We can't encourage antisocial behavior, and leaving private stuff for free in the middle of the street is antisocial behavior. Free on-street parking for cars is just as bad for everyone, but people have grown accustomed to it and get bothered by e-scooters even though they take a small fraction of the space of a parked car.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Paris is slowly but surely greatly limiting cars in every way possible in the city, even motorbikes now have to pay to park in the streets.

It's just that users of shared e-scooters were not being respectful. We don't see any problems with shared docked bikes and other types of personal bikes/e-scooters, which are all still allowed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

i fully agree with the parking of cars issue. But for that at least exist systems to reprimand people parking outside of the alloted spots and many cities have parking spots only designated for people actually living there.

For scooters we would need a default fine, of say 20โ‚ฌ per scooter that is not in the correct spot or is parked in a way to hinder other people. The fee would need to be deducted directly from the company, irrespectuve of whether they pass it on.

But that kinda brings us to the point that the whole business model is bullshit, as it can only be profitable with internalizing public goods and externalizing the costs of manageing the dipshits that are misusing them, endangering the safety of other people.