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I'm considering to switch to Proxmox for my main PC, run a Windows VM on top and passthrough the GPU to play games. However, I heard anti-cheates aren't that friendly to VMs. Had anyone tried this? Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Isn't Proxmox intended for servers whose only use is to run VMs? Why not go for a traditional desktop distro like Mint and run KVM, QEMU, or VirtualBox on it?

Anyway, I have heard something like this, but it probably depends on the anti-cheat. Some might run in kernel mode to deliberately detect VMs. Others won't care if you use a VM.

[–] wildbus8979 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proxmox runs KVM/Qemu in the backend, so it's essentially the same thing. OP might want to have a machine in their rack they use for remote gaming for example.

Also don't use VirtualBox.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounded like OP wanted to install Proxmox on their main PC, which would imply using it as a daily driver desktop OS, which it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not but more like a building block for my daily driver.

I plan to use Proxmox VE to build a virtual infrastructure in one machine. It will have many VMs running and one of it would be my daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah okay, that makes more sense.

[–] HumanPerson 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is wrong with using virtualbox?

[–] wildbus8979 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's subpar, closed source, kernel module installing, type 2 virtualization that makes users believe VMs are slow, when in fact Type 1 hypervisors usually achieve near 98% efficiency. And too boot it means that open-source projects like virt-manager don't get the usership they deserve and need to continue being maintained.

There is legit not a single reason to use it on Linux, and there hasn't been in well over a decade.

[–] HumanPerson 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow I didn’t even know it was closed source. Thanks for pointing this out, I will definitely be getting virt-manager.

[–] wildbus8979 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not entirely closed source, but the extension packs are. The other reason are the main one that should make you switch. Why use subpar software when there's a better, trusted by the entire industry, alternative builtin already?

[–] HumanPerson 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am already spinning up a Debian vm. I had a minor issue with file permissions but it it is working great now and is definitely faster than I remember virtualbox being. I am so glad I saw your comment and I would switch to this even if Richard Stallman himself wrote Virtualbox and all the extensions.

[–] wildbus8979 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's also a whole lot more flexible. And will easily do full PCIe passthrough with some more advance configuration. virt-manager even works remotely over SSH if you have another machine you want to run your VMs on!

[–] HumanPerson 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GPU passthrough was the next thing I tried! Do you know any good tutorials? The one I found tells me to do mkinitcpio but I don’t seem to have that. I think I mentioned this is Debian but in case I forgot its Debian.

[–] wildbus8979 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have a specific guide for you, but a good place to start is: https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough

[–] aSingularFemboyHooter 5 points 1 year ago

I think that's what they're saying, in that, use proxmox to host a gaming vm. But choosing a hypervisor that can run games well bare-metal does sidestep some potential headaches.