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No mention of what they’re protesting but hopefully this isn’t some sort of attempt to repeat the literal shit-show from last year.

Edit: apparently it’s people gluing themselves to roads to promote trains. https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/traffic-disruption-warning-by-police-ahead-of-restore-passenger-rail-protest/

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem I often run into is, what IS a protest that isn't disruptive that DOES get your attention? Constant bashing of anyone who disturbs the status quo because you should "only target the people directly causing the issue", but they've made so many layers between them and us that the only people who can be appealed to is your fellow every day man. And he's too busy being frustrated about not driving fast enough on the road to get to the next place he's being fucked that the only thing he considers about your message is that it inconvenienced him.

So, what are good non-disruptive ways that get your attention and cause some form of action within the population? It can't just be non-disruptive, people have to engage with the concept and learn/question something about their every day life from it or else it's ineffective and people should just keep gluing themselves to things because at least that gets your attention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The strike for climate change protest was a genuinely impressive sight to see, enough people to fill a street, and they just kept coming. They also completely filled Parliament grounds.

So, if you genuinely want to make an impact? Get tens of thousands of people to protest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of those "thousands of people protests" was literally canceled because the council didn't want to provide traffic management. For the protests that did happen, people were squeezed into as small space as possible and quickly moved out the way, so as to not waste the time of the climate destroying cars we were protesting. It was pathetic. But the status quo is going to protect the status quo.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't have cared that much about the cause, in that case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree. The whole point of a protest is to protest the government, letting yourself be repressed by their rules defeats that point. That's why disobedient protests like RPR are necessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So protest the government, not people trying to get to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're protesting in Wellington, so many of the "poor normal people trying to get to work" do work in the government. Protests are inconvenient, that's the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, protests are supposed to get public support for a cause.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How often do tens of thousands participate in a protest though? We had mass protests. This is just a reminder that politicians really need to do more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's kinda my point. It's easy to ignore a handful of nutters, less so a crowd of tens of thousands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago