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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is an opinion post from the Washington Post.

that's not news that is an opinion piece that references Zenz who is a liar and Nazi sympathiser.

The UN has done a fact finding Mission and they said there is no evidence of a Uyghur Genocide. It didn't happen.

Yes there are Vocational schools in Xinjiang but that is to teach people trades to lift themselves out of poverty. The only "culture" being erased is religious extremist terrorism that snuck in through Afghanistan when USA pushed the Taliban out of Afghanistan. Yes there was a rapid increase in birth control measures in Xinjiang but that is what happens when women are given education, economic self determination, and access to proper medical care. They get a IUD so they can focus on living their lives the way they want to instead of being slaves to men who use them as domestic servants and baby incubators.

Zenz based his entire "genocide" theory off statistics and bad math because he is involved in the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. It is an organization built to spread hate against communism. They hate Communism because the USSR killed 7/10 nazis that died in WW2. The large majority of "Victims of Communism" were Nazis and the people memorializing them are nazis too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

that's not news that is an opinion piece

I literally stated that in my comment. You even quoted it.

[Zenz] is a liar and Nazi sympathiser

I just clicked that link and, wow, that tweet was quite stupid. He should not have said that. What the Nazis did was unexcusable. However, please keep this in mind - that being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one's opinions on other topics.

The UN has done a fact finding Mission and they said there is no evidence of a Uyghur Genocide. It didn't happen.

China is one of the five most powerful members of the UN (the permanent members of the security council). Though the security council does not have much to do with the investigation directly, there is no gainsaying that China has had a certain degree of influence. It is entirely possible that the UN decided to overlook their crimes due to pressure from China.

Yes there are Vocational schools in Xinjiang. [...] and baby incubators.

When I told you that the Xinjiang camps are committing genocide or when you saw Zenz claiming the same how did you feel? You were thinking that I gobbled up and regurgitated all the US propaganda and that this is just a conspiracy theory because I couldn't give concrete proof, weren't you? This is also exactly how I feel toward your claims except that the propaganda you gobbled up were Chinese. Besides, I am pretty sure that when women are given more education, they decide not to have so many children either by using condoms or having less sex rather than getting IUDs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one's opinions on other topics

I'll fight you on that especially when the "other topics" are "opposing Communist states."

It is entirely possible that the UN decided to overlook their crimes due to pressure from China.

UN is a China Puppet? GTFO. The Peoples Republic of China wanted to join the UN in the 1950s but wasn't granted membership until 1971 despite being the government representing over a fifth (22%) of the population of the planet.

You were thinking that I gobbled up and regurgitated all the US propaganda and that this is just a conspiracy theory

China is not committing genocide in Xinjiang camps the only one saying they are is a nazi sympathiser. If you are saying it it is only because you have not recognized that it is propaganda spread to delegitimize a communist government and rehabilitate fascism.

Besides, I am pretty sure that when women are given more education, they decide not to have so many children either by using condoms or having less sex rather than getting IUDs.

This is peak "I have never discussed contraception with a woman." If you are going to choose between having less sex and fucking any time the mood takes you what will you choose? If you can choose between having to insist your partner wear a condom or just not having to worry about it what would you choose? No offense if you are asexual or whatever but this is like pure male virgin ignorance.