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Really? You don't see the innuendo? They intentionally chose the six nines figure. He even made the "nice" face, raised his brows and gave the camera two finger pistols. Are you like, new to human interaction?
"Six nines" is practically a meme in the IT infrastructure and DevOps world, and has nothing at all to do with any kind of sex joke. For years "six nines" has been touted as the pinnacle SLA target for high availability and uptime of services. You'll find references all over the Internet to this SLA from all kind of companies, both big and small, in their marketing.
Examples from a quick and random Google search:
Companies such as Microsoft, Amazon (AWS specifically) and Google tout the "six nines" as their HA SLA in loads of their marketing, and it's easy to find.
I could go on forever but that should give you an idea. You can read more about "The Rule Of Nines" here if you're interested: https://vastdata.com/blog/the-rule-of-nines
My point is, this isn't a figure they made up for a sex joke. It's a very real SLA that is explicitly touted in IT marketing all over the Internet and has been for some time.
So where does the "innuendo" come from then? The uninformed viewer's own imagination, I think. Because from my perspective, I just see an IT guy trying to brag about how he's going to ensure his infrastructure reaches a slick "six nines" target for high availability, snapping his fingers and showboating the camera in pride about it.
It's up to the viewer to interpret what they see, of course, but it's also wrong once you know what the true intention more likely was to continue to insist that it was something else entirely. If anything, what he really meant is inconclusive, I personally think it's a real stretch to assume it was a sex joke.
All the LMG channels regularly make “69” sex jokes, if you think they weren’t using the opportunity of the coincidence of “six-nines” coming up to make a double entendre (especially with the body language) then I have to assume you haven’t been paying attention, are extremely poor at human interaction, or are willingly trying to cover for them.
It is SO completely obvious. Like, beyond any doubt.
And we all know what six-nines uptime means, as it relates to servers.
I guess you can chalk it up to I "haven't been paying attention" then. I'm not a religious viewer of all of their channels, I just watch the odd video here and there (like, maybe one or two videos every few months), and since this whole fiasco blew up I got curious enough about it to catch up on what happened, and watched the apology video. With that being my context as a viewer and technology enthusiast, that's the lens I viewed this segment through. I just didn't see anything wrong with Luke's part.
Maybe if I was a more of a regular viewer I might have seen it a bit differently, But even if it was a double entendre, for the sake of argument, it seems to me as though it were pretty tame at worst in his case?
Oh man, check it out. We have the body language expert here. Everyone else is just stupid in comparison.
LMG should hire you. Linus need clean boots and you seem willing to lick them.
Jeez man who hurt you. Both the content and delivery of it from the guy above seemed very genuine. Don't be a dick.
I defended one specific segment which seemed unfairly taken out of context, with support for why I thought so, and remained as objective as I could about it. I never commented on anything else besides that one specific segment, and I never expressed any support for LMG as a whole (full disclosure, I think they've done some awful things they need to be held accountable for). But that makes me some kind of LMG apologist?
Okay. I don't see what else I can say about that accusation.
If it sounds like a duck. Ok, sorry. What you said is certainly a meme that's part of tech. However, I would bet significant amount of money that their bro culture looked at six-nine and they turned it into an innuendo. As most immature asshats, as they seem to be, would do. If you can't see that, I'm sorry, but your social awareness is off.
I appreciate the toned-down response, so thanks for that. As to whether or not it really was a sex joke, I can't say for sure one way or the other. It's anybody's guess. People should interpret it how they see fit. But I saw it differently and offered up my interpretation, backed with information that supported what led me to it, so that I wouldn't be thought of as a blind supporter.
I'm actually not even a supporter or regular viewer of them at all (I've watched the odd video here and there, just on occasion). Just someone who heard about all of this and got curious. I watched the apology video and that segment struck me as innocent for the reasons I stated. And it's totally fair if someone wants to interpret it differently. I just think it's unfair to conclude with 100% certainty that it must have been a sex joke and therefore everyone who watched it should be offended by it.
This comment doesn't help anybody now, does it?
I think I took the time to fairly and productively as possible express my viewpoint, backed with some reasoning and additional information, without trying to insist that I am without a doubt correct and everyone else is wrong. I acknowledge that others may not feel the same way. So in what way is flaming without adding anything productive to the conversation more helpful than what I shared?
A more important take is that it actually doesn't even matter if it was an innuendo, everyone needs to get over themselves and their pearl clutching over nothing
I haven't watched the video, so am asking legitimately. Assuming it was a sex joke was it out of order, or fine? In my mind, as an adult, the odd innuendo at an appropriate moment can be hilarious. If he's not objectifying etc etc, then surely that's OK? But, I've not watched it, so seeing what your onion is.
Edit. Down voted for asking. Is this reddit? What happened to lemmy?
In the video they are allegedly apologizing for being unprofessional and unethical and promising to halt all production to take time to be better at their job. You tell me if you would make a sex joke while being scolded for misbehaving in a professional setting? Then, it turns out they are being accused of fostering sexual harassment.
Removed from the context of the other allegations around LTT/LMG, it's absolutely in poor taste; solely in the context of the video by itself, it's still not great.
There's been a whole lot of complaining recently when it comes to LMG so it's no wonder people have latched on to anything they can perceivably attribute as negative, even something as mild as a potential 69 joke (nice!)
That's the vibe I was getting here too, there's been a lot of downvoting of totally innocent questions and non-aggressive commentary. I don't get where all of the anger's coming from over some of the productive conversations and sharing of ideas going on here.
But to share my opinion about your question, even if Luke were making a sex joke during his segment, having watched the entire video, I personally feel it was pretty tame. The only thing he did during his entire time on-screen that anyone is upset about is exactly the clip you saw in the linked video. Just those couple of seconds as they are. Everything before that was plain and simple talk about plans for improving the state of their infrastructure, and the tone of that was quite professional. So at worst, his attempt at a sex joke here was pretty lame and fell flat, because there was no build-up to it at all.
In an apology video regarding accusations of sexual harassment and assault at the company? Yikes. Not really the time or place to make sex jokes.
The apology video came out before the sexual harassment accusations.
~~While I agree that it wasn't the time nor the place, that video had nothing to do with the sexual harrassment/assault allegations.~~
~~This was in response to GN video and subsequent Linus response on their forum.~~
~~The other stuff came after.~~
~~Still weird, but not on the same scale in my opinion~~.
Edit: I just saw timestamps lower in another comment chain showing that the apology video actually came after the twitter post.
While it was most likely filmed and edited before said post, launching as is is pretty bad indeed.