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when anon switches to arch :
Ya during video calls at my work it's always the entire room waiting for the Linux users to troubleshoot their sound and video. Usually they give up and join the call from their iPhone
Windows for workstations and Linux for servers imo.
As a former helldesk minion I can assure you that linux users are not even on my radar of people that waste everyone's time with troubleshooting simple things.
Yeah, mac-tards are the worst. "I want this to do all the exact same things as windows but I refuse to use windows"
Most of my mac users were fine, the people i had a problem with didn't matter what OS they used, it was the ones that complain a thing isn't working, you ask for confirmation that the thing is plugged in, they say yes it is plugged in, then you physically move to the workstation to find that it is not plugged in. If you have a legit problem, even if you caused it we're still cool. If you waste my time by lieing to me we are no longer cool.
I used to do desktop support and I never helped the Linux users either.
Most of them only use it because they think they are cool or something. Usually break the install every 3 days.
almost always break the install, but the customization looks so pretttyyyy
Watch him grovel
For development Unix-like OSes are far superior to Windows. Macs mostly work OOTB but are far too expensive if you need anything more than the base config. As for me, never had issues with my mic and webcam under Ubuntu and even Arch, pipewire Just Works in my experience.
Hell I've never even had audio issues on oracle linux, everything else is broken but the audio
You can get Linux subsystem for Windows in a single click, problem solved
lmao, mine as well being a cup of water to the desert and tell a fish their problem is solved
I am a Linux admin right now who does everything using Windows 11 and fedora subsystem
Linux as a workstation is trash that people only use because they think they are cool
I am not a techy person, not a programmer, nada, and linux (particularly fedora) has always worked with little to no issue for me.
The hardest thing I really ever have to do is enable the rpm fusion repos on a fresh install, and the only problem I consistently encounter is discord trying to take control of, and subsequently destroy, my audio when using bluetooth headphones.
I just use it because it is an easier, privacy & user respecting system.
Nah once you get used to Linux, it's hard to go back to Windows, it has nothing to do with what I think is cool.
I am literally a Linux system administrator
Like literally a third of the people here. Big deal, means less than nothing.
Installing Linux on your home computer doesn't make you a sysadmin
Most of the people here don't know fuck all, it's obvious by just this conversation
I'm probably the only person in this thread who actually makes money using Linux
Being a sysadmin doesn't make you a desktop user
Keep dreaming buddy.
There is always a bigger fish.
Lol. Cute. In another comment you mentioned being born in the 90s. Some of us have been making money using linux since you were in early elementary school.
Then why do you all not even know what a container is? Too old to keep up?
Well I had decided not to pick on your obvious shortcomings and be polite, but since you are choosing to be an asshole - No doubt you have a hard time keeping fedora up, you can't even read usernames.
Hint: I never mentioned containers, wsl, or anything else in this thread. I just found it funny that you think you are special as a fledgling sysadmin on lemmy.
I was just saying that because literally no one in this thread knows what they are talking about. Maybe you do...
Sorry if I return insults to perceived insults. It is just who I am. I definitely do know what I'm talking about. But the one thing I have learned over and over is that it doesn't matter how much I know, there are always folks who know more. And a ton of them are here on lemmy.
Well there may be a ton on lemmy, but not in this thread lol
Which qualifies your opinion about GNU+Linux workstations how?
Because I administer them and get paid a lot to do so? Idk lol
Above you acknowledged that there's a difference for desktop and server cases.
You do know you can just say you prefer Windows as your desktop?
Doesn't it go without saying these are just my opinions
That's not an opinion, that's just an insult of people's preferences and developer's hard, often unpaid work. There's no substance or explanation, which would be fine with "I personally prefer using Microsoft Windows" but not your statements above. I really feel like you're "arguing" in bad faith.
I guess you only use ssh, docker or k8s? For serious software development, integration between the windows host and the Linux VM is far from seamless, or was last time I checked. Anyway, when all the software you use is unix-first, why bother jumping through hoops to make it run under an inferior OS?
Linux let's you have low level control over your hardware, windows blocks that.
Running linux under windows offers nothing beyond familiarity of linux tools, which obviously are better suited to a linux environment.
If you prefer windows it has its own closed ecosystem, but at this point its really just preference x monopoly
Linux under Windows is in a separate container lol. You have no idea what you are talking about
A container with what permissions? Please prove me wrong and do a gpu pass through. Oh wait its a container so it still is CONTAINED within windows, and inherits its limitations.
Just run Linux with wine/VM if you really got such a windows hard on, wine van essentially be used as a windows container
You don't need a pass through. It's a container, not a vm!
Exactly, hence why gpu pass through is impossible. Due to a limitation on windows. Cause the install isnt nearly equivalent to a full linux install. Its almost like it has a reduced set of features
just use a just works distro
Tried running fedora for a while and still run into problems
I'm a sysadmin for 10 years and I have no patience for my own workstation having issues anymore
can relate to having no patience for my workstation having issues, that's why i use linux. It does exactly what i tell it to.
What kind of software under windows do you use to facilitate the network and security in the firm you work for?
None, I'm behind ACLs and an f5 firewall on separate vlan
I just use qpwgraph so if audio isn't playing, either it isn't registering (source apps fault, doesn't happen often though) or it's going to the wrong place and I can quickly switch it around. Bonus points for being able to route music through your microphone to play it for teammates