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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@matthewtoad43 @MattMastodon @BrianSmith950 @Pampa @AlexisFR @Wirrvogel @Sodis

Ah, but historically, France is not an outlier. Here are the largest 10-year deployments of clean energy sources. The green ones are nuclear.

Nuclear doesn't take long.

Here is an overview of historic build times.

The task is not fearing we might get a bad case, but creating an environment in which we get a good one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Ardubal @MattMastodon @BrianSmith950 @Pampa @AlexisFR @Wirrvogel @Sodis That graph includes some huge deployments of wind, and today, it's a mature, cheap technology (though still improving). Same with solar.

On the timescale on which the historic installs occurred, that was not the case: nuclear and hydro were the only mature options.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Ardubal @MattMastodon @BrianSmith950 @Pampa @AlexisFR @Wirrvogel @Sodis Can you name *one* nuclear project in the last 20 years in Europe that wasn't severely over-budget and severely delayed?

It's not just the UK. Every third gen PWR has taken way longer than expected.

The public rightly insist on the safest designs possible. And those at least have been tried once (generally only once!). However, they take a long time.