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No, by real world I mean one in which billions of humans and trillions of animals live, and which has limited resources that still require labour to extract and process. That real world.
Assume pure socialism or communism in every country for your plan for all I care, the issue isn't the economic system.
I've been reading your posts, and have pointed out flaws and holes in your plan you have failed to patch. Instead you just deflect, and change the subject or move the goalposts.
And you still haven't even gone into any detail. You want a full lockdown enforced by hazmat suite wearing national guardsmen. Okay, who is making the suits, because they won;t just magically appear. How do you keep the people making the suits from spreading covid?
Covid spreads between condo and apartment units through ventilation. you suggest HVAC upgrades installed by gun totting hazmat suit wearing guards. Where are the HVAC systems coming from? We don't just have billions lying around. Where are the technicians coming from? We need a lot of HVAC technicians to do the installations in the billions of homes worldwide.
I'm not asking for a day to day schedule, just some simple logistics for how you plan on making and distributing billions of pieces of specialized equipment, all while maintaining a tight lockdown.
I'm gonna have to say D-.
You can't even defend your side of the debate. I'm asking you to explain the simplest logistics of what you suggest, and you won't even try. When will you understand that means your argument is wrong?
This isn't a debate.
This is you being an asshole and trying to justify the mass death that resulted from the global covid response as impossible to avoid when it was very possible to avoid.
You should be less worried about replying to me and more worried about earning your Shut The Fuck Up degree.
You got a D- on your last assignment, recall?
Sure, because you refuse to engage.
I gave you reasons why a 2 week hard lockdown wouldn't have worked to solve covid. You gave a new scenario where we needed a longer lockdown and rigorous testing. I pointed out flaws in that plan, and you then started insulting me instead of actually addressing those flaws.
Why won't you answer the logistics questions of how your plan to lockdown the whole world and test every person and animal on it at gunpoint would work?
Why should I engage a murderous asshole who came into my notification lying and ignores or willfully misunderstands every point I make?
Go work on your degree.
I'm not murderous, I masked, locked down, got vaccinated as soon as I could.
But there are absolutely no measures we could have taken that would have eliminated covid. We could only slow it down.
You need to learn about epidemiology, as well as logistics, because your suggestions of how we "could" have dealt with it would not work and I'm trying to get you to understand why.
And I have my degree, you can call me Doctor by the way.
How do you expect to get your Doctor Of Shutting The Fuck Up degree at this rate?
I don't need it, I'm very much qualified to keep talking. If anyone needs to learn to shut the fuck up, it's you. You clearly have no maturity, no logical grasp of reality, and a complete refusal to be educated. It's sad really.
I have to say a PhD in Shutting The Fuck Up would garner you alot more respect than insisting it's impossible to fight disease so we shouldn't do it.
I don't know how old you are, but it's never too late to go back to school.
I sent you a link higher up in the thread.
Check it out.
You should really go to school yourself, you sound like an uneducated pre-teen.
I didn't say it was impossible to fight covid, I said it was impossible to eliminate covid. And further steps to fight covid like you suggest are not only impossible to implement, but would have resulted in catastrophic deaths on their own.
No matter how hard we fought covid it spreads to well, and has too many vectors to eliminate. Us going into harder lockdown, and killing more people from lack of services, would have still resulted in endemic covid spreading like we see today.
You do know you can stop this conversation anytime you like. I just want you to think over the logistics of fighting an airborne illness that can easily spread between condos and building floors without any direct interaction between people, while existing in several wild species, and consider how that makes it an impossible fight. And your "suggestions" for solving those issues would not work, so either think of new suggestions, or accept you're wrong.
If you're as good at your day job as you are at shutting the fuck up, I worry for your employment.
I still think you deserve food, shelter, and internet though (just wish you wouldn't use the last one to be a piece of shit in my notifications).
Well if you stopped replying I wouldn't be in your notifications. You only have yourself to blame.
No could you please educate me on the logistics of how we could have eradicated covid? Since you know so much on the matter, but have told me so very little, and given me no detail. I would really like to know.
If it's impossible to eradicate airborne disease, how did we manage to wipe out LIGMA?
Given there is no such disease as Ligma, we dind't.
But if you want to do a "ligma balls" joke, go for it, I'm all ears.
I don't. I want to enjoy a world where assholes stop sealioning in my notifications.
I am forced (as vaccines should be) to do a ligma balls joke, because you won't shut the everloving fuck up and blocking on kbin isn't worth a damn.
So yeah, lick 'em dude.
You keep being wrong about disease if that's what gets your rocks off, I'll keep being insultingly dismissive to your bullshit.
You're the one complaining I'm in your notifications, but I'm just replying to what you're saying to me. Just end the conversation, I won't send you any messages except to reply to you.
But since you're still around, I want to tell you I know a lot about disease, it's a huge part of my doctorate. It's you who is lacking knowledge of diseases, and willfully incredibly ignorant about it.
Ligma balls, dude.
Sure, present them and I'll lick away. Nothing wrong with a little ball licking once in a while.
You must still be enjoying me in your notifications, otherwise why do you keep replying to me?
I see you victim blame in covid death as well as online harassment.
Really weird how you interpret "Fuck off" as "keep going" but it's also weird how you're wrong about how disease control works so I guess that follows.
Never too late to fuck off, though.
I believe in you.
Why don't you try it now?
You first, I'm just replying to you.
Go ahead, take the first step, be the bigger person.
Or actually engage with the very simple logistics questions I have about your plans. I'm not asking anything outside the scope of what you suggested, so I'm not sealioning you. I'm trying to understand how you will pull off installing new HVAC systems in every home, as you suggested.
You're really bad at this, dude.
Bad at trying to get you to clarify your points? Sure, but that says more about you than me.
Feel free to stop replying anytime, you're the only reason I'm still in your notifications.
I'll miss you when you go though, it's been nice.
No, bad at fucking off.
Man, you must really enjoy me being in your notifications, because you keep replying to me.
I like you too, let's keep chatting, okay?
You were doing so well, too.
Don't worry, I won't let this shake my faith in you.
You're so cute. So what did you get up to today?
Now you're crossing into harassment.
Saying it's cute to reply to me? That's not harassment. Maybe you should just stop replying to me though, and then you won't have to deal with me anymore.
Gonna have to ask you stop harassing me. You've gone from 'annoying' to creepy.
Gonna have to ask you to stop messaging me, you're continual harassment of me, with all the name calling and insults, has been out of line.
I thought I asked you to fuck off. I stopped reading these messages ago.
Why do you keep messaging me?
Stop fucking messaging me, dude.
Why do you keep messaging me?
What is your fucking problem you sealioning fuck?