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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah yes, so they have another large instance to ddos

Use smaller instances like lemmy.zip or lemm.ee. You know, the entire point of decentralization.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not just about users though, we need to separate communities as well. There are so many communities on lemmy.world currently.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. I feel like world isn't prioritizing the health of the entirety of Lemmy by not closing community creation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that up to the creators though. If world is their home instance, why would they create elsewhere? Not being able to create communities would kind of defeat the purpose.

If creators want engagement, they will create on subs with more uptime. That will likely be world in the future, when hardened. The ddos attacks aren't good for Lemmy now, but it should iron out some wrinkles in the long run for all instances. I think the world admins are doing a great job, both technically and communication wise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you put too much stock into the ddos explanation. I'm not saying it's not a thing, but there are bigger issues that it seems won't be resolved before Lemmy 1.0

Regarding your first question, tf is my home but I have created communities on different instances. Some instances because the community fits the instance, some because I like the URL. I figure it's best to decentralise as much as possible.

As to your last point, I think some of what the admins at world have done is tremendous and I celebrate their commitment to world, but there's limitations to the software, as they well know and ultimately this is a decentralised platform of which loads of little instances are supposed to make up the larger whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of expected some people to start instances for mostly just making accounts (some of which I have seen), and for other people to make instances just for community hosting and disallow account creation (and afaik this hasn't been done to any appreciable degree). I'm not sure this is even possible or functionally useful with the way lemmy currently works for community creation and stuff, so maybe that's why it didn't happen.

Honestly I even expected some instances to pop up with the sole intent and purpose of serving one community, but even stuff like the startrek instance have account creation available.

Maybe it's because lemmy is so new for people. Niche instances would rather host accounts than scare users away in an effort to get them to sign up elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't remotely make communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that would explain why there isn't a general use community only instance. Honestly that feels like a feature that should exist, while still leaving "local only" as an instance setting for people who like it that way.

Still seems odd for instances with a specific set of premade communities with new ones disabled to worry about hosting accounts, like the startrek one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think the idea is to force people to spread out across instances and support the instance they're creating communities on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People are looking for an easy access server for lemmy, they search for it and because of SEO the most popular servers are the ones they see.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lemmy needs a refpost system where you can choose to post articles to different instances that link together.

You then can get all the benefits of centralization without necessarily being centralized.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't lemm.ee running on commercial hardware designed to take much larger server loads?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Like every other instance?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Most instances are run on a rented vps. But no vps is going to take well to a constant ddos

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think the other ones are running on? i386s in someone's basement?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long will it take, do you think, for lemm.ee to become one of the bigger instances? I keep seeing people mention it, and that's why I'm here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lemm.ee is larger than lemmy.ml by active users monthly, as such it's already the second largest instance. Don't let the "total users" number confuse you: lemmy.ml is ancient and is bound to have many inactive accounts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know why Hexbear's numbers are all blank (because it's newly federated?) but I would expect it to take second or third place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, didn't know that. Makes sense why I see so many lemm.ee users then

Ig it shouldn't be recommended as a smaller instance then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It still has one eighth the users of world. World is just absolutely huge compared to the rest.