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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dude, what? Have you ever watched Mad Max? Do you even know what it is about? lol
It has nothing to do with climate change, has no pro car message and is not even from Hollywood.
This is just ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I love the idea that someone in Hollywood okayed the idea of giving George Miller (who would have been like 70 at the time) $150 million and just sending him off into the desert to film two hours of complete lunacy, and it worked. The film like doubled its budget and won six oscars lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

has no pro car message

"violent car chases look fucking sick" is a pretty core part of mad max so it at least has a cars-are-cool message

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

So is combat & fighting in video games & movies, doesn't mean they are pro murder or violence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Fury Road has a very strong theme of extractive/capitalist survival (represented by cars, gas, control of water etc) = bad, regenerative/communalist survival (represented by the mothers and plant life) = good. The action scenes are ofc designed to be cool but I think the broader environmental/social message is strong enough that the flame guitar doesn't drown it out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yet there were further signs of the desperate measures individuals would take to ensure mobility. A couple of oil strikes that hit many pumps revealed the ferocity with which Australians would defend their right to fill a tank. Long queues formed at the stations with petrol—and anyone who tried to sneak ahead in the queue met raw violence. —McCausland on the 1973 Oil Crisis, defining the theme of Mad Max

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They may be thinking of another movie in relation to the climate change part. I have heard several people the past couple of years (who have clearly never seen the movies) talk about how the "oceans have dried up" in Mad Max, which is clearly NOT the case.

To be fair though, the world has gone under massive ecocide in Fury Road, but that isn't climate change so much as climate destruction.

And on the car bit, I couldn't agree more. Not only are they using the cars for actual survival, but the amount of people who actually have functioning cars is miniscule. The entire plot of mad max is war over resource shortage which includes oil. In thunderdome they were literally making fuel from FECES. In 2, Max tried extracting fuel from a gyrocopter lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its been a while but I have watched all but the latest one. It definitely has something to do with climate change. The first film he was still a cop and now he wanders a desert because of ecocide and societal collapse. What do you think happened between the first and second films to cause a wasteland?

It definitely has a pro car message because he spends most of the films trying to fuel his car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it true that the apocalypse in Mad Max was caused by nuclear war?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think that happened after Mad Max 2. Which made everything worse rather than causing the problems.

From what I remember it's reasource scarcity leading to societal collapse, I definitely remember fuel being very expensive. I suppose that doesn't have to be directly climate related but you can make comparisons easily between the two.

The car messaging is obvious though. You can't have a load of cool heavily modded cars without it being pro car.