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You will be no better than the people you'll fight against. I've seen it happen on every pro-men subreddit, and if this place isn't aggressively moderated to dispel hopelessness, negativity, and prejudice, it'll just turn into hate.

Incel, mens-rights activist, red-pill, black-pill, MGTOW, etc. don't let the haters join otherwise this community will end up just like the aforementioned.

Egalitarian from a male perspective is what we should be, not pro-male (I say male because of sex and gender).

Be excellent to each other.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Does that mean that the men's movement has to be misogynist?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, the men's movement doesn't have to be misogynist, and in essence it isn't. Except for some bad apples.

The feminist movement also doesn't have to be misandrist, but it has always been that. With some positive exceptions.

Just look at the 1848 Declaration of Sentiments, one of the founding documents of the movement, which blames men in general and demonizes them as tyrannical oppressors. The misandry starts right there.

In contrast, the men's movement has always promoted equality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The feminist movement also doesn't have to be misandrist, but it has always been that. With some positive exceptions.

I disagree and think that's a biased view. Women are just human, like men, and fall prey to the same problem of "bad apples". To date, I have only met one brainwashed feminist, a few engaged feminists, and way more passive feminists. The same applies to men. Online though... it's very much the opposite.

In contrast, the men's movement has always promoted equality.

That's only the benefit of time. Back in 1848 things were very very different. There are probably very few movements started by the disenfranchised back then that could have even started in a civil manner.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

To date, I have only met one brainwashed feminist, a few engaged feminists, and way more passive feminists.

That's how a trojan horse works. Most people who call themselves "feminists" have only passing awareness of what institutionnal feminism is up to, but they do support it anyway, imagining that feminism = equality, and therefore must be good.

Institutionnal feminists, the ones who matter, the ones who get laws passed, are horrible, terrible, no good people who have just last month legislated in my own country that it's more of a problem if a woman gets killed than a man, even though 2/3 of murder victims are men, just like everywhere else. Now by law more ressources have to go into investigating "femicides" than other homicides, and "experts" (feminists) have to be involved, making criminal enquiries biased by law. Love for my son to grow up in that world.

So apologies, but a "non-brainwashed" feminist is to me exactly, and I do mean exactly, like a "non-brainwashed" nazi. Doubly evil. Once for supporting evil, a second time for being too lazy to inform themselves on what they are supporting.

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