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Why is NZ so corrupt? (lemmy.nz)
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Recently I talked to three people who were ripped off by builders and tradies. One of them was out by more than a hundred thousand dollars, the others were in the tens of thousands of dollars.

People signed contracts and then didn't finish the job. In one case when confronted the builders said "you can't move in until I am done and if you don't accept this I won't be done for at least a year".

In the other case the contractor demanded double the money halfway into the build and contacted all other builders in the area and smeared the friend so that they didn't pick up the job.

In the third case the contractor took half the money up front, didn't show up for weeks, finally showed up for a few days and did a few things and the fucked right off. This was for about a 30K job.

Court costs are ten thousand dollars per day of trial (including prep work by the attorneys) so all of them had no choice but to take being ripped off. The tradie community seems pretty tight too so once you are ripped off you are known as a mark because all of them had issued with other tradies they hired afterwards.

Needless to say cops and the courts are useless.

Learn to do things on your own I guess. You can't trust any builder or tradie in NZ.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

That would make everyone who comes back after a long break suspicious.

No, it wouldn't, because other people don't suddenly come back and immediately start defending a just-banned Kiwifarms troll with Nazi apologia and genocide denial in their posting history.

You even said on there that you couldn’t post images on that instance in that post.

I didn't say that. You're conflating me with someone else.

[–] PatrickStar 1 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It wasn't sudden considering we just talked about where I picked up the information. I link to these. It shouldn't escape you where I'm coming from with this. Again, stop lying out of your teeth.

I also looked into much of it before coming by. I don't defend the Kiwifarms part unless she signed up to defend people at the source (look into that), but the claims she "denies" a genocide or "defend" Nazis are based on semantics. From the looks of it, she acknowledges the tangible actions. What other people do regarding her should be none of your business and shouldn't be publicly pressured by you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

but the claims she “denies” a genocide or “defend” Nazis are based on semantics

You commented 50+ times in this thread where you doubled down on trolling about how the AfD aren't Nazis and how Elon Musk's Nazi salute wasn't a Nazi salute.

Here, you said Elon's Nazi salute "has been debunked though".

You dismissed what's happening to Palestinians as "war crimes" "not genocide".

unless she signed up to defend people at the source (look into that)

You made replies on Kiwifarms where you mocked people for being upset that you defended Kiwifarms as a "free speech" site on Lemmy, saying they're probably from two demographics who are most at odds with Kiwifarms (autistic and trans people). You also referred to people as lolcows there.

[–] PatrickStar 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hence semantics. And once again, you're conflating me with someone else just because I said something about the issue. The whole AfD thing is a debate in its own right. Look, be mad at her if you want, but don't shoot the messenger and don't drag every single person on earth into it. You're obsessed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] PatrickStar 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow, that was fast. You watched the video already?

No, no you didn't. Otherwise you'd be responding with something else. Watch the video. Notice that's Simon Whistler speaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not watching a YouTube video. One person saying the AfD aren't extremists does not prove anything. Did you look at the AfD's official posters?

[–] PatrickStar 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One whole video versus two posters. You believe in the posters. And some people believe in the video. If one isn't conclusive proof, neither is the other. That's why people consider it a debate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] PatrickStar 1 points 2 days ago

You say that like you didn't just admit to ignoring the video I provided. And I'm not even defending them, you're just seeing an enemy everywhere you go.

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