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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Tried using Alma on my rig at home (since I'm using it on my servers), and I'm already going to be looking for a new distro. Went back to it after a week or so not having the energy to deal with it and apps like Firefox and steam wouldn't launch.

Need to find a decent OS to run in its place so I can stop booting to Win10

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

Fedora is the obvious answer for you. It's upstream from your upstream. It has the same tooling you're used to, but newer packages. A less obvious answer is to embrace the atomic/immutable future and look at Fedora Silverblue or the stuff that the Universal Blue community is putting out. I switched from Silverblue to Aurora-dx and I've been extremely happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Funny you mention that, Silver blue was the first thing I tried (because I've used fedora off and on for over a decade) and something about it just didn't work for me, but I don't remember what. Didn't try the regular version tho.

In the end, I want something I can game on and dev with (which is the easy part, since VSCodium is multiplatform). If Steam doesn't work, the install is getting torched (which is why Alma is getting the boot).

I'm a sys admin by trade, so the OS should require minimal troubleshooting because I'm sick of doing that by the end of the day.

[–] SuperUserDO 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a different family then what you have been playing with, but if you want "just works and not fancy" - Debian.

It won't have the latest and greatest software (security patches sure but nothing else). You trade that for stability.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That might be a good selling point of Debian, if you never try anything advanced with it. I wanted to get GPU passthrough working on Debian with qemu, and it was such a pain trying to get the packages that Debian didn't come with. Had to add new apt repositories, started messing up the boot cycle, and I eventually just gave up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any reason to go vanilla Debian and not a Debian based system like Ubuntu? I'm not looking to do much advanced on my desktop other than maybe some docker/bash/Powershell development, gaming, and basic browsing.

I definitely am attracted to 'it just works', but I also want to make sure I'm not handcuffing myself with an os that makes it hard to play with it as well. I know those are at two ends of a spectrum, but worst case I have plenty of VMs to use to play if necessary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"It just works" is why Linus Torvalds uses Fedora and not Debian. Just saying... Debian does a lot of weird hand holding and many packages come with pre-configured pieces rather than what the developer pushed. They're usually sensible, but if you don't know it's doing that it can be strange. For example, fail2ban on Debian will come with an SSH jail pre-configured. That is what most people use it for, but IMO it's kind of weird that someone made that decision for you on an app that isn't pre-installed.

In the defense of Debian vs Ubuntu, Debian won't force snaps on you.

[–] SuperUserDO 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And to be clear. I'm not going to say Debian is not without it's flaws. It is the system you choose if all you care about is stability. Case in point, I work with Linux day in and day out for my job, the absolute last thing I want to do is tinker with my laptop when I'm not at work - so I picked Debian. For me, the absolute stability is the most important thing - for others the fact that software can come preconfigured or is just old will be deal breakers.

As for Ubuntu vs Debian - ultimately they are similar. However Ubuntu has made some (IMO) choices I dislike (eg snaps).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If all you care about is stability, check my other comments about the Fedora Atomic family. Hard to be more stable than immutable with built-in rollback capabilities. That's why I currently run Aurora DX.

[–] SuperUserDO 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also a lot harder to wrap your head around atomic distros when your first playing with Linux. Windows > a traditional distro (even arch) is a lot more similar then making the switch to an immutable distro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it? It becomes much more like the phones and tablets that people are already used to. Go to an app store and get a packaged flatpak app and you're done.

[–] SuperUserDO 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fair. And short of someone publishing a study I doubt we will ever know what the best entry point is. So, advocate the atomic distros, I'll advocate the crusty old dinosaur that moves (slightly) faster then molasses. And someone else reading this thread can recommend one of the rolling distros. At the end of the day to me the importance bit is that someone is interested in Linux as a whole.

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