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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

I think the average person (and average Musk acolyte) doesn’t grasp how hard spaceflight is, much less sustainably living there.

Colonizing the bottom of the ocean would be orders of magnitude easier. Or the South Pole. Or Kīlauea's open lava pit.

The tech you'd need to make living on Mars independent of Earth, like consciousness uploading, self sufficient friendly AI, extensive human/plant bioengineering, terraforming… Well, they're better at solving our problems on Earth anyway.

…Look, I'm all for science mission there, but "escaping" to Mars is the wildest fantasy. A few years ago I'd say Musk was lying or exaggerating, but I think he's actually drinking the Kool-Aid, and doesn’t even understand the basics of modern spaceflight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (9 children)

And that last paragraph sort of nails it on the head

Musk is a scammer, he always has been. He got lucky a few times which landed us to today. He has close to zero engineering knowledge and is a drug junkie to top of off.

Look close at all his companies, look at what they all have done since he got in

Tesla... How many new models were made since he got in? And no, he didn't found it, he bought himself in and through some scheming got rid of the real CEO. How many models are his brain child? One. Yes, that one. That is Elon Musk. Tesla robotics? You mean the guys in spandex suits or the shitty pre 1990 robots that are controlled by some guys that were in highschool 3 years ago? There is nothing of substance there. The robo taxis from yeeaaars ago that will now be there next year? Uh huh... Tesla truck? We're still waiting!

SpaceX? They got billions to get us to Mars. They never go beyond the super easy part in rocketry, low earth orbit. Anything beyond that is where shit gets really hard and we're still waiting. All I saw was billions of tax dollars wasted in blown up rocket after blown up rocket and SpaceX cheering nluke idiots over a blown up banana. Hell, they obliterated a launchpad because btgey were dumb enough to not understand flame diverters...

Boring? We dig tunnels 1000 times cheaper but it must be just a dumb tunnel with no chance for escape or survival. We can add disco lights though, cool right!

Solar roofs? The ones that didn't work and right now there is this huge court case about it?

The guy is beyond stupid, been saying this over a decade now, and somehow he keeps falling up

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

You are being too critical.

SpaceX is demonstrably successful, hence the NASA director has gone out of their way to say "we work with SpaceX, not Elon Musk." I've had good in-person impressions with Tesla solar. Even the Boring company seems efficient, and Tesla has some virtues mixed with the hype, especially in reference to the conservative ICE auto industry.

It's cultish to say Musk is responsible for all this, but he was their owner.

...People are complex. They deteriorate. I think we can accept that Musk helped start some successful/interesting companies while saying some extremely idiotic, and dangerous, things.

[–] AwesomeLowlander 3 points 6 days ago

Shh, this is the Internet, we don't do nuance here.

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