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Notes for a talk at ICMI with the following title: Feminism: Not “progressive”. Not “egalitarian”. Not “liberal”. Not “left-wing”.

  1. Feminism is not “progressive”: It’s regressive; it is based on misandry, sexist discrimination, hate & bias; it suppresses science (esp. on domestic violence, on female violence and on criminology in general); it is conspiracist; it asserts the existence of a non-existent entity “Patriarchy”; it is ultra-conservative, in its treating women as helpless infants. Infantilism about women is conservative, not progressive.

  2. Feminism is not “egalitarian”: It demands, and achieves, preferential treatment for a privileged group (women). By definition, this is anti-egalitarian.

  3. Feminism is not “liberal”: To the contrary, it is socially conservative—women are infants, without agency; it is illiberal & authoritarian; it demands increasing state power; it uses the police and institutional power as a tool of social control; it is moralistic & Puritan. More or less by definition, these are central principle of state-enforced illiberalism, social illiberalism and social conservatism.

  4. Feminism is not “left-wing”: It has no interest in economic fairness (esp. those at the bottom of society); it is openly anti-working-class. Marxism and socialism are, by definition, left-wing because their primary concern is with economic exploitation, wage slavery, alienation of the worker, co-erced theft of their labour, and so on. Feminism is, in no way, “left-wing”. Feminism is a form of Identity Politics. This, in general, is an anti-left-wing position. Furthermore, it is a form of Identity Politics closely aligned with the State, policing, punishment and incarceration (so-called carceral feminism). Again, these are not “left-wing”. They have been traditionally right-wing positions for centuries.

The ICMI20 talk is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQf1JDa28Y&list=PLOXfnai0-o0I8BtOpmjbn_3FGYBHiV64S

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[...] misogynists ideas [...]

Feminism ≠ Women. It is possible to criticise an ideology without attacking the people which the ideology claims to represent.

Feminism, at its core, advocates for gender equality [...]

I'll have you know (per the dictionary definition) that Feminism actually advocates for women's rights. The difference is quite subtle, but very important.

Feminism does not suppress science [...]

... that agrees with Feminist ideology... Anything else is "misogyny", "fake news", "pseudo-science" etc.

The concept of patriarchy refers to a social system in which men hold primary power and women are marginalized. [...]

Apex fallacy/collectivism; Just because the people at the top are men, this does not mean that all men have power. After all, the vast majority of homeless are men too...

[...] challenge societal norms and structures that limit their opportunities and choices.

Such as...?

It advocates for equal [...] agency [...] for women.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

🤣🤣🤣

Sums up my response perfectly