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83 major Chinese brands implicated in report on forced labour of ethnic minorities from Xinjiang
(www.business-humanrights.org)
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I looked up Adrian zenz as soon as I received this comment. Zealots aren't very endearing to me, But since his studies regarding Uyghurs haven't been disproved, I kind of let the Christianity go.
There's definitely a cultural genocide happening in xinjiang though, their culture is being dismantled very rapidly.
Camp guards and former prisoners and free citizens of xinjiang all attest to the CCP concentration camps, that uyghurs aren't allowed to practice their religion or speak their mother tongue.
I don't understand how you didn't find any evidence. Do you mean you just don't believe any of the articles or interviews or documentaries about the Uyghur re-education camps?
This is one of the concentration camps that a BBC News team was allowed inside of:
https://youtu.be/WmId2ZP3h0c
Either you have a genuine interest in learning more and knowing what's going on - which will require a little effort and a bit of an open mind to expand the sources you might be used to - or you check a few sites and videos that kinda confirm what you want to believe and then fill out the rest with your assumptions and prejudices.
Ok, they haven't. You are interested in the matter and want to learn more about it, right? Then go read his studies, see what they consist of, and see why no one has been able to disprove the findings of Adrian Zenz.
That is terrible then, and you care about it, right? Then go and learn more about it. Learn about the history of Xinjiang and how the lives of the people in that region have changed over the last few decades. Research how Uyghur culture is being dismantled very rapidly.
Find actual proof for what you want to be true.
One last thing, I really never said that there were or are no re-education camps. They played a very vital role in the war against terror. You claiming that I said they never existed, annoyed me.
Anyway, all the best.
Recommendations to start:
You claim that there is no proof for a cultural genocide against the uyghurs.
Right here: "Well... never found any evidence of genocide, cultural genocide, or anything coming close to such things".
Above, I've linked proof provided by the CCP showing uyghurs not allowed to speak their language, practice their religion, and the Chinese officials in charge of that camp saying that they detained innocent uyghurs before they commit crime because they might commit a crime later.
Cultural genocide is the genocide of a culture, in case you find the term too oblique. By indefinitely detaining free and innocent people until they stop practicing their culture and begin practicing the culture approved by the CCP, the CCP is practicing cultural genocide, contrary to your claim.
Strangely(but I appreciate it) you subsequently backpedal and you even agree with me that "uyghur culture is being dismantled very rapidly."
Yes, thank you, I agree.
I never claimed you didn't believe in the existence of Uyghur concentration camps; I asked you how, with video and journalistic evidence of the concentration camps(where cultural genocide is occurring), do you still not believe in that evidence of cultural genocide.
The BBC video you linked has already been disproven. We also know that the BBC is by no means "journalistic", it is the propaganda arm of the British state.
On "cultural genocide", here is an AP News article (mainstream) documenting their visit to Xinjiang as soon as it was open for tourism, with the conclusion reached that the repression ended before they arrived (2021)—the article of course still holds on to some of the Western pretenses, with numerous falsehoods still being spread with the attempt of holding onto the cultural genocide myth.
And here is Sibel Edmonds, a former interpreter with the FBI, talking about the U.S.’s plan for Xinjiang in 2015 (crackdown began in 2017): “Xinjiang is the entry artery of energy. We want to, gradually and internally, play the gender card and the race card. For that part of the world, we want to play the minority without land. We say we are going to help them and they are being oppressed, Chinese are gunning them down and torturing them.”
And you can consult this talk on the war in Afghanistan by Lawrence Wilkerson, Chief of Staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell and retired US Army Colonel, where it is admitted that a strategic reason for continued U.S. presence in Afghanistan is for the use of the Uyghur population in that nation as a bulwark against China (see Paul Williams' Operation Gladio, p. 271 for further evidence of U.S. promotion of terrorism and unrest in Xinjiang).
The very premise of "cultural genocide" of Uyghurs is strange when China has roughly 54 other ethnic groups which have been relatively unscathed, including other Muslim-majority ethnic groups such as the Hui ethnic group, which is larger than the Uyghur population. What could be the reason for this?