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USA’s presidents have all been awful humans (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From the article you linked.

The CIA, in the spring of 1977 and into 1978, told the Carter administration that Indonesia was literally running out of weapons, running out of bullets and bombs, because of the intensity of its bombardment of East Timor, and that the Suharto regime was requesting a doubling of military assistance so it could more effectively prosecute that war. And in 1978, the Carter administration actually increased military sales to Indonesia, including the provision of ground attack fighters, such as OV-10 Broncos, A-4 and F-5 ground attack fighters, which the administration knew would be used to bomb and attack the defenseless civilian population of East Timor.

What's more, let's pretend to be the most gullible person in the world, totally unaware of how the US has historically operated, and take Carter at his word. Was anyone prosecuted for lying to the president? Was anyone court martialed, did anyone in the CIA, State Department, or Department of Defense face any sort of legal repercussions? No?

Then I guess the US must have been pretty satisfied with the outcome, to not make any provisions to ensure it wouldn't happen again or even punish those who led to it. And of course they were, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and Northrop Grumman must have made a literal killing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So you're moving goalposts from the original claim "Carter oversaw east Timor" to "maybe someone in the CIA should have been prosecuted" and "the military industrial complex is bad"?

Big shift if true.

A shift from actually new information to "turns out the bad guys are bad, guys"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, so you're not actually interested in learning, but in sealioning.

That's cool, I've been around democrats before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Sealioning: a word people misuse when they are annoyed in an internet conversation.

Go ahead, look up the definition and break down what I said by that definition. I look forward to it.

Especially since you clearly aren't able to argue the case in front of you.