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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way in hell my relatives are going to use a messenger I selfhosted. My brother doesn't even use Signal for whatever reason, even though even my grandmother has it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is the problem of getting another person to change something... A very valid problem but not inherent to decentralization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kinda is, though - regular people have a lot more trust in centralized services, and Signal has a very large userbase compared to anything selfhostable. And IME they really, really hate installing new messengers.

Plus, selfhosted E2EE would still be just as illegal as Signal. Many people won't be willing to participate in illegal activity, and if you just don't use E2EE on your selfhosted solution the usefulness seems rather dubious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think any ban on such selfhostable servers is enforceable at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

What if the government shuts off the app source (and source code) and makes it illegal for anyone to download or redistribute it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It doesn't necessarily have to be enforcable to deter most people. At minimum, with such a ban there's zero chance to communicate with government agencies with E2EE.