Updated to include a disclaimer for Non-European but open source/self-hostable software and replace Pipedrive with efficy as the wrong Imprint was used to identify as European while being American.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I love this initiative and looked up something I use a lot at work. I use Confluence for a whole lot of things, often in teams but for myself as well. So I looked up XWiki but found it wasn't really comparable.

Confluence is a SaaS product. It used to be self hostable as well, but I don't think it is anymore. But one of the reasons I use Confluence is because it's very easy to setup and get going. For my own (work) stuff it's free. And when I work with teams from customers it's still very cheap and so easy to get going. This means at the start of the project I recommend to my customer to use it and they often agree right away because it's zero overhead, zero hassle and pretty cheap. It also integrates well with stuff like BitBucket, Trello, Jira etc.

Maybe XWiki is comparable from a feature point of view, but not from a service point of view. Self hosting is not something I want to put time into, so I would have to pay someone to do it. And convincing my customers to do such a thing is a complete no-go.

Are there comparable services either in the form of SaaS or reasonable priced hosted options? I know from a consumer point of view SaaS is the devil, but from a business point of view it's basically the only accepted form right now.

I would love to switch over to EU only products and services, but it has been hard finding the right solutions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Pure speculation, but I think a lot of people hate Atlassian products because they’re using outdated self-hosted versions that are not configured properly.

I’m a big fan of their SaaS products. They’re cheap (often free depending on team size), get lots of updates, look modern and just work really well.

They’re not EU, but at least they’re not US either. Don’t mind some money going to the Australian economy. (I feel similarly towards Canada and Mexico)