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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

that not what i mean… so i don’t know why you went on arguing with what you assumed i meant.

politics determine governance which is involved in civil rights, yes… but that doesn’t make it politics.
for example, the environment is heavily affected by governments but the environment isn’t politics.
civil and human rights exist without government, and the rights exist whether or not your government cares about it or not.
or, to the extreme, the holocaust was carried out by apparatuses of nazi germany, but the holocaust wasn’t political… it was something else…. and that’s why we have the Hague

[–] mindbleach 1 points 7 hours ago

How the fuck do you define "politics?" You seem to think it's only the boring parts of governance, but not anywhere consequential, problematic, philosophical, or horrifying.

Which civil rights are real is fucking obviously a matter of politics. Guns, for example, are not on-par with free speech in most of the world. Free speech in most of the world isn't even on-par with free speech in America. How the hell would you classify the discussion of how those things shake out, if not as political debate?