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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

the conflating of the two in the same ballpark is the problem

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

On most issues yes, but they're nearly identical when it comes to Palestine. Neither will do anything as Israel terrorizes and murders Palestinians. Whatever difference there may be isn't enough for the "but genocide joe" comments to make sense as anything but an attempt to feel superior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not true. Joe Biden would actually respond to classic government pressure. Trump doesn't and won't care

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lol well first when did that ever happen? The Dems completely supported Israel just like the Republicans. So when did that pressure ever exist?

The truth of the situation is the timing of everything was intentional. Put the Dems between a rock and a hard place, encourage protest voting/voting third party, Republicans win, even worse situation with no hope and Bibi along with their oligarch buddies in Russia knew they'd benefit from a Trump presidency.

It's really easy to boohoo about Biden's response to Oct 7th. It's really difficult to step back and see the situation for what it is and how it was made to bring us here now. And all people like you can do is repeat Genocide Joe as if this dude orchestrated anything instead of upholding military contracts and alliance agreements.

Biden doesn't act like Trump, the law and the rules affect him. Congratulations your perspective gave us someone who literally won't bend to any rules what so ever.

It's unfortunate but that is politics and that's the president and this opinion really just left everyone far more fucked and for what, moral perspective high ground?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

The Dems completely supported Israel just like the Republicans.

Okay, then how are the Dems and Republicans any different when it comes to Israel?

Joe Biden would actually respond to classic government pressure.

Since the Dems are also pro-Israel that pressure was never going to come. What ifs won't stop genocide.

And all people like you can do is repeat Genocide Joe as if this dude orchestrated anything instead of upholding military contracts and alliance agreements.

He can go to hell with his military contracts and alliance agreements. As US president he was well within his power to enforce US law and stop weapon shipments, but he didn't. He didn't even allude to it. People were sentenced in Numenberg for less.

this opinion really just left everyone far more fucked and for what, moral perspective high ground?

So first, while Gaza voters were an important voting bloc the Harris campaign didn't even give them a chance to make her lode. The opinion that did her in was "Hardis sucks", no more no less. Gaza was only one of the reasons people had this opinion, another being—for example—being her refusal to fucking commit to anything.

Sexond, have you ever heard of class solidarity? No leftwing coalition was ever going to hold with the "leftist" party campaigning on genocide. "They came for the Palestinians, and I did not speak out".