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[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Golf courses aren't inherently bad, but I think just about every one out there is weirdly exclusive and definitely wastes water.

Disc golf is a good example of a sport that doesn't monopolize space. It's built into existing trails. Generally speaking the public can't walk on golf cart trails (I'm sure there are exceptions)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I do. It is a giant waste of fucking space and resources so that some rich people can enjoy hitting a ball around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

The worst part is usually they take an undeveloped scenic natural space and turn it into a waste of water that pollutes from all the lawn chemicals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

There are city-owned golf course around me that I presume aren't that exclusive (I dunno, I don't play). That said, they're also implicated in draining all sorts of toxins into the local waterways.

I think they are inherently bad. They waste water, their turf needs constant care that puts nasty stuff into the rest of the water supply, and the space can't be used for anything else. It's not merely a game, either; it's the defacto way for rich people to network and talk about how they're fucking the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Disc golf is just sticking a few goals into otherwise typical park. You are gently tossing a soft disc over maybe 60-90 meters so you don't need to be extra careful to make the way clear.

Golf by its nature demands huge amounts of space for few people to enjoy. Further the landscaping and irrigation demands on a golf course are immense. You can't have too many things on a course or people walking around, because a pretty hard ball comes flying from 200 meters away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Minigolf is the superior and family-friendly alternative to golf, TBH.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Correction: The discs are not soft. They are hard and can be sharp-edged as well. Keeping throws away from walking and bike paths is super critical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Ok, guess I may not have exposure to the scene as much. My experience is probably more 'filthy casual' level, at a few parks and a corporate campus that seems to just have goals installed without much regard for where the trails are, and the few times I've participated it was just random folks with pretty mundane frisbees.