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Lemmy has public mod logs if you're ever curious
So does kbin modlog
I just looked and sure enough:
that's a beehaw thread posted in [email protected]. This is the sorta thing I mean lol. Like what an odd thing to remove? Surely it's a fitting topic for a technology group?
Beehaw has strict instance-wide moderation policies (which don't really work in a federated model tbh, but they haven't seemed to realize as such yet).
Beehaw's trying to funnel Reddit-related stories into a single megathread. However, if people aren't subscribed to that community on their instance, they don't see the megathread and don't know to post in it.
Simply put - while Beehaw is a nice place, their moderation style is at odds with much of the fediverse. I wouldn't be surprised if Beehaw started defederating fairly broadly to prevent users from other instances coming in to their communities without respecting their rules and standards.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Beehaw remove themselves from federation entirely, since they very much want to be their own thing.
Just saw the Beehaw has defederated from Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. so you seem spot on in your assessment.
Could be a repost? I haven't checked the community to be sure, but I know I've seen that same news link posted all over the place.
actually I just found out what's up. beehaw is completely defederating from lemmy instances. which probably explains why they removed the threads (made by lemmy users).
Do you know why? That's pretty wild. ETA: I see the answer in a Beehaw post below. Makes sense. I've never modded anything but I imagine federating with other popular instances with only 4 mods would be overwhelming.
Yup. So beehaw is a pretty closed site with strict moderation. They're trying to keep a particular tone and style for users and content (think safe space). Lemmy, in contrast, is open for sign-ups, and just had a ton of ex-redditors coming in with a very different culture, tone, way of interacting, etc. Since there's so many Lemmy users now, beehaws moderators couldn't keep up (there's only four of them apparently), so they defederated.
Not sure if this link will work—or if it's relevant to the specific mod action you quoted—but that same mod put up a thread with some context around the purging you were talking about.
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/22304/ANNOUNCEMENT-defederating-effective-immediately-from-lemmy-world-and-sh-itjust-works
Wow... That seems like it doesn't bode well for the users fleeing Reddit. Less rhan one day after the blackout, and the major intances of Lemmy are already infighting, fragmenting, and walling each other out.
Use Lemmy, they said. It'll be fun, they said.
Well beehaw is a little special lol. They are likely gonna trend towards not being federated at all. Other instances are fine and lack this sort of drama.
I think they had a megathread on all Reddit news over there. It would explain why they removed individual threads on the matter.
Ooh, thank you!
So from a quick skim there, most of those are actually not kbin mods. I'm still wrapping my head around the fediverse lol, but that modlog is actually from everyone not just kbin and I guess that's on purpose!
Yeah the linked modlog shows the mod actions from all the instances apparently, not just us on kbin. It might still be useful to see just the kbin modlog, which is probably on the to-do.
I'll have to look into it :)