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Greater attention to user anonymity. For example, right now, you can look at any thread/comment and see who upvoted it and who downvoted it. In addition to causing arguments and drama, it also can be used to build a profile of what a user likes or dislikes - which can have significant ramifications for many people. Users need to be able to trust in certain aspects of anonymity and have control over what information they allow to be public. That also includes public access to know who follows a particular user as well.
The ability to save threads and comments.
The ability to expand/collapse comment trees.
Better moderation tools, including the ability to be notified when new threads are created in a magazine you moderate.
The titles to threads need to directly link to the linked URL instead of opening the kbin comments page. You shouldn't need to go through twice the effort to get to the linked URL. It also adds twice the load for the kbin servers.
I'd like the ability to inline expand images / videos, it was a great RES feature.
Easier way to sub to magazines than scrolling to the bottom on mobile would also be a corker.
Agreed, this is one of the creature comforts I miss the most.
I want to bring up that a positive aspect of not having 1 is that it’s a good way to figure out who to block. On discord for a technical subject that is unfortunately somewhat in the mainstream we have non-anonymous reacts and every time I see someone having a very strong yet uninformed opinion on a technical subject I block them. It makes me viewing experience a lot better.
Yes, people will be able to collect more information on you this way but I think here the trade off is not so bad. We make a similar trade off when we comment. There is also an element of choice, since you can also choose to lurk and not allow your stuff to be scraped.
What about queer person wanting to upvote something but not feeling safe if someone knows their username? What about a woman living in a place with abortion bounties wanting to upvote something about how to get help, but being afraid to?
Point 1 is paramount. 5 is important also from a tech standpoint. The rest are very good points.
I really like that we can see the activity. People are using downvote way too easily. Lets make everyone accountable.
edit: hey downvoters, come off your high horse and argue. right now all your saying is "shut up", so for me you are contributing to exclude people to express themself. this is not at all what I'm looking forward in this community.
We should have the ability to manage what of our data goes out to the internet/advertisers/scrapers/other users. Non negotiable.
I totally agree. We could let this info be private between users.
Advertiser makes a user account that is a bot for harvesting data. Now it isn't between human users anymore. And more than that I don't think I want people I don't know having access to information I don't want them to have access to.
but if you interact with me I'd like to know. So where do you draw the line? or maybe I don't understand you correctly.
I don't want to be advocating to less privacy, so feel free to correct me, but just by interacting with each other right now, without using the upvote and downvote system, we are already giving information to potential scrappers no? The solution would be to remove upvote and downvote all together then?
I like how favorite works on mastodon. we could achieve the same on kbin?
Could it be possible to have two kinds of boosts, anon boost or tracked boost? The standard default could be anon with a hover option for tracked, with the default being a setting that can be flipped.
as for now boosts and upvotes on kbin works like boost and favorite on mastodon. I think that it's good to keep this compatibility.
in my option if we can't take responsibility of our action, be called by our name for them, we shouldn't act. we need to address some privacy aspect tho, regarding external party. but between to users I welcome this transparency.
Downvoting has always been used as an easy disagree button in every platform that has ever had it. Why not stop pretending it means something else and just embrace how it will inevitably be used anyway?
because we are building something new here and we don't need to keep this "always been used as" policy. it's up to us to choose how it's gonna be used in here.
I don't know if you were on mastodon when the twitter migration happened. the people from twitter embraced the fediverse values, and most didn't fight to bring the twitter behaviour into it. it's refreshing for everyone and it can be a safe and welcoming place.
not everything is perfect, far from it, but we can try to make it better.
You completely missed my point. Reddit pretends that downvotes aren't supposed to be used as an easy disagree button. That pretension is the behavior I want to leave behind. If we're going to have a downvote button at all, lets acknowledge how it will be used instead of pretending we can change human nature with an FAQ.
thanks for clarifying it then. why not go this direction. but I think that you are wrong to assume how determined the behaviour from users gonna be.
it's up to us to decide. maybe through UI design choice tho.
I agree with you in principle, but I think the OP might be making a different point, which is that you can't really convince everyone to use votes in any particular way. Most people will go with their gut intuition, and most people's gut compels them to vote based on agree/disagree, so that's the behavior you're gonna get.
totally. maybe I'm really naive to think that we can all agree to keep "fediverse etiquette" around here. or just any etiquette at all.
we will see.
that being said I really enjoy exchanging about this with everyone involved so far.