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A decision to negotiate over the heads of the Ukrainians would reveal just how Trump sees Ukraine and Europe.

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://theconversation.com/ukraine-isnt-invited-to-its-own-peace-talks-history-is-full-of-such-examples-and-the-results-are-devastating-250049


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm just telling you how it works generally in an online arguments. You're free to post a whole book or a long video as an argument. It's just that most people aren't going to engage with that and it won't work well to prove an argument to the other people. I'm sorry that it upsets you, it's not my intention.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Oh wow I didn't know I was being visited by his holiness the arbiter of how online arguments should and do work. And by holy decree you've asserted that it works however allows you to be the laziest, most bad faith and anti-intellectual.

I have an idea of how things should work: either engage or don't. You don't have to live like a fucking weasel trying to sidestep arguments with "but you didn't give me a timestamp" and "lol u mad" all the time. You can just shut the fuck up, you know.

Doing these things doesn't make you more right. Just the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean don't take my word for it, see how internet arguments generally work out there in internet. If you come off with a different idea on how they generally work, then it's an agree to disagree situation imo.

You don’t have to live like a fucking weasel trying to sidestep arguments with “but you didn’t give me a timestamp” and “lol u mad” all the time. You can just shut the fuck up, you know.

No need for these sort of outbursts. Against the rules too...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean don’t take my word for it, see how internet arguments generally work out there in internet.

Delusional. You look. Who out there is using more strict citation rules than academic papers?

You don’t have to live like a fucking weasel trying to sidestep arguments with “but you didn’t give me a timestamp” and “lol u mad” all the time. You can just shut the fuck up, you know.

I stand by these words and add to them: Fuck you tone policing. Go fuck yourself a second time for the behavior I called out here. Punk ass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who out there is using more strict citation rules than academic papers?

I wasn't asking even for the same rules, just saying that even when there's the expectation that your reader does academic work when reading you don't put in a whole book.

I stand by these words and add to them: Fuck you tone policing. Go fuck yourself a second time for the behavior I called out here. Punk ass.

It's the rules. Take it up with mods of this sub and instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And my position is that you're a lazy piece of shit crybaby who can't argue in good faith. You can't accept someone saying "I remember reading it in this book" without jumping down their throat and demanding they do work for you for no other purpose than for you to smugly ignore what they say. Fuck you.

You were born stupid and you're going to die stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

mfw this thread is still going on