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Russian politician honestly explains the goals of the Ukraine war, admits any peace deal will only be temporary (video.echelon.pl)

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[The link leads to 2 min. video.]

Alexander Borodai is a member of Russian Duma and one of the founding fathers of the "DPR" (Donetsk People Republic) under FSB control.

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First, he admits that any ceasefire for Russia will only be a temporary freeze in the war, because Putin's main goal will not be achieved - taking control of all of Ukraine and establishing a puppet Russian regime. Any independent Ukraine for Russians is "Western weapon".
Second, he admits that Russia has been waging war with the help of people like him in Ukraine since 2014, and in 2022 it only continued with a full-scale invasion.
And most importantly, third, he directly says that the problem is not that Ukraine can be in NATO. The problem for Russians is that they consider all of Ukraine to be their "historical territory" and that Ukrainians "do not exist as a nation at all", and that Ukraine is inhabited by "divided Russians".

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who is responsible for the current state of affairs in russia?

Who is responsible when a junkie rips copper pipes out of their shower to sell to buy drugs?

[–] Skiluros 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is enablement of russian genocidal imperialism.

Rather than taking a sober and realistic look at their actions and attitudes, we get this bullshit.

If you actually had to deal with russians, you would never in a million years behave in such a manner.

Be thankful you don't have to deal with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm all for locking the junkie up in a psych ward and using their trust fund to pay for it.

There is no rational interpretation of what Russia is doing but considering them irrational actors. They, just like the junkie, aren't acting in their own self-interest, not even close to it. They're mad. All I'm doing is giving some psychoanalysis.

[–] Skiluros 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shitpost all you want, just don't act like you're actually being legit.

At the very least a strong majority of russian are genocidal imperialists (if not an overwhelming majority). The victim/junkie positioning merely provides cover for their actions.

They know what they are doing. They know what they are doing is bad and they will keep on doing it until they think they can get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At the very least a strong majority of russian are genocidal imperialists (if not an overwhelming majority). The victim/junkie positioning merely provides cover for their actions.

That doesn't make sense. Pretending to be mad, to take actions that are to your own detriment, is mad in itself.

They know what they are doing.

And so do a fuckton of junkies.

I don't think we're getting anywhere here. How about this:

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

That's Sun Tzu. Know the enemy. "They are genocidal maniacs" is not knowing them, it's judging them, it's defining your own relationship to them. You cannot lead them by the nose with that, you cannot manipulate them, you cannot outflank them. Judgement is not understanding, one cannot replace the other.

Might it thus, with that in mind, and if the goal is to defeat them, be helpful to understand why Russia is the kind of country that it is.