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A decision to negotiate over the heads of the Ukrainians would reveal just how Trump sees Ukraine and Europe.

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://theconversation.com/ukraine-isnt-invited-to-its-own-peace-talks-history-is-full-of-such-examples-and-the-results-are-devastating-250049


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's funny to me how both sides say this about the other. There were two rebellions in Ukraine backed by foreign powers, and which one you think is legitimate and which one was created by foreign meddling doesn't seem to have anything to do with any facts on the ground, it's entirely about which global hegemon you support.

In reality, both the succession movement and Euromaidan involved a combination of foreign agitation and popular support, and it's nowhere near as black and white as either side pretends.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck your disingenuous bothesidesism.

Western support of Euromaidan (what you erroneously call "meddling") isn't remotely comparable to the straight acts of war that Russia committed in the Donbas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Of course not. It's not meddling when we do it, because we're the good guys.

Our support of an organic democratic movement to overthrow the old corrupt regime, their meddling support of proxies to undermine the legitimate government.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

Ah fuck, I just see that you are lemmy.ml tankie scum. Of course you are siding with autocratic fascists. blocked

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Hey fuckwit, you didn't reply to a single thing I said.

Europe supported the Ukrainian people vocally, but verbally during the Maidan.

Russia armed and funded extreme Russian nationalists, you know like actual nazi scum, and sent them to Ukraine led by FSB officers, controlled directly from the Kremlin. Nobody in the Donbas asked for this, except for retarded nazi scum.