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I’m curious how other folks have managed life after detransition. Due to mental health stuff (ended up in “grippysock jail” over half a dozen times) and later losing health insurance, I detransitioned some years ago. Semi-recently I went back on hormones, got an orchiectomy (which eased bottom dysphoria considerably), and now find myself stuck somewhere in the middle. I present as male exclusively.

I get that some people may wish to perform gender along the lines of what I’m describing, and that’s totally valid but it is not the case for me. I find the current state of affairs incredibly frustrating: I would like to be perceived as a woman. Or at least part of me does - another part doesn’t care and is waiting until I can become an hero and end the whole sordid business. In either case, presenting as female poses significant challenges, and I’m too depressed and discouraged to even try to surmount them. Even when I was more functional and had the pecuniary advantage of an allowance, it was very clear that no matter how well I honed the art of “presenting” as female, I would probably never pass.

So, to restate the question, how do people deal with the fact that (as those in some quarters of the internet put it) “you will never be a real girl”?

(and incidentally, should anyone be concerned, I'm safe and currently under psychiatric care)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Gender as dictated by society is fake and that is how we deal with it. The whole point of transitioning is to be yourself, not to live up to someone else's ideas or ideals of what you 'should' be.

The idea of 'passing' or acting in a specific way is not only unfairly limiting but also dangerous for ourselves and others.

Heck there are many cis women that don't 'pass'.

We understand your frustration but it should be aimed squarely at the system and colonial expectations which is what has always attempted to make the beautiful range of possibilities of what a person or many persons can be into a boring grey lump.

Be more, be you, protest the system, fight back, especially with others, push for change. Do what you need to do in order to if not be happy then content.

Edit: Also there's no such thing as a 'real girl' these people completely don't understand science, philosophy, history or anything else we have brought up here. They are dull, boring people who have sad lives and can only feel better by putting others down, ignore and block them, report them if you think it'll do good too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The idea of ‘passing’ or acting in a specific way is not only unfairly limiting but also dangerous for ourselves and others.

I'm not concerned about looking a certain way as much as, if this makes any sense, being in communion with the eternal essence of womanhood, the platonic form, if you will. I feel severed from this, like I was damned to be a male; all that's left is this desperate longing. Dressing "as a woman", or bullying people into pretending I'm a woman can't begin to satisfy it.

there’s no such thing as a ‘real girl’

I guess we (might?) differ in that I believe there is some sort of "absolute" womanhood (and it presents in infinitely many ways); I just feel disconnected from it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining more. We apologise for acting so rashly and will try to give a better response soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

That's all right. I'm still exploring how I feel myself. Usually for me introspection about gender only goes so far as "I want to kill myself," so every post is an act of discovering and unpacking and interrogating my own beliefs. (I reserve the right to be wildly inconsistent and self-contradictory between posts 😛).

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