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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't say that exactly because I don't know Mandarin. I think a bit over 200 deaths occurred as a result of armed conflict between the Chinese military and rebels (also armed) in the streets outside the square. The total death toll includes both sides of the armed conflict as well about 40 students and some innocent bystanders. Nothing in the square and no tanks crushing people (Have you watched the tankman video?).

Obviously it's still not great, for many reasons, but it's also not the indiscriminate bloodbath western media makes it out to be.

I linked this elsewhere here, but I like how this article lays out the facts as far as can be known and includes the months leading up to that awful night.

https://archive.ph/24zzF

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But you said that you are inclined to believe it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seems to me to be the closest to accurate depiction of events based on the evidence presently available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So you don't k ow what the CCP position is, but you think it relates most to the evidence?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

That and .50 will get you a dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So you didn't see my other reply?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why does it matter what the CCP position is?

They aren't the absolute truth when it comes to reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

OP said that the CCP positions seems most correct (can't remember what adj. was used.) OP usd the CCP position in argent, so the position is relevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Interpreting your question differently.

Translation which is linked from the article I linked earlier. https://archive.ph/6ubTT

But I can only assume this is accurate because, again, I don't know Mandarin.