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See, to the informed, liberal means someone who follows the liberal capitalist school of thought, typically associated with the Austrian school.
To absolute fucking morons, it means "people I have been told I don't like"
This is why constructive conversation is tough
I mean, liberal, in broad definition, means a person believing in liberalism - that the liberty of people should not be infringed unless it's absolutely necessary (like you can forfeit your right to liberty if you kill someone or steal something)
and that doesn't include Joseph Stalin
It doesn't include Hitler either; I am not stating it does. I am a liberal however one that supports more left wing policies (like pro minorities policies like ban of conversation therapy, equal marriage and easying the procedures for transitioning, as well as supporting union rights, strong social nets, welfare and strong safety regulations and worker rights) while believing that the state should justify all intrusion of personal liberty and keep some sort of reasonably regulated, yet free market in place.
The free market is a alright enough default when efficiency is desired, but the government needs to take a more permanent active role. That would fit under safety regulations, but with an expanded understanding to correct for long term externalities.
The expectation under liberalism seems to be that business activity is a right, so every intrusion by the government must be justified. I don't think business activities should be thought of as rights, only the ability to earn a living and be happy. Business rights and personal rights will inevitably come into conflict, and personal rights often lose. We need to make business exist for people, or people will exist for business. Business actions must be justified by how they serve us, just like government actions. Neither are people
No, personal liberty takes precedent over economic liberty. Full stop. The machine works for all the people or for none of them
You would think, but not under the current system
Well okay yes, also a totally fair interpretation, but still very much in contrast to "people I don't like" at the end of the day
Not really. It's more about personal and societal liberty than capitalism. If you are "economically liberal" then you are a republican