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Lemmy.world down, probably following the upgrade. A reminder to move to smaller instances for a better experience
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this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2023
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Please come to lemmy.today if you like a small fast instance with no downvotes.
Also federates with all other instances.
I don't understand the appeal of no downvotes. Do you really think it's a good thing that trolls, bigots, dangerously wrong answers, general assholes, spam, etc can't be downvoted? I won't pretend downvotes aren't misused sometimes, but their existence is critical for quality control.
Edit: wait, I just saw you post in another thread as an "enlightened centrist", so I guess that explains it.
Not to mention the other instances have it enabled. So anytime federated with them can downvote them, but they can't downvoted each other.
I can't seem to find the source right now (so take this with a grain of salt), but someone did check the Lemmy codebase to look into this scenario - if an instance has downvotes disabled, it won't propagate incoming downvotes.
I know that on my instance which does have downvotes enabled, if I check out any post from Beehaw (who does have downvotes disabled) there are zero downvotes on any comments as far as I can see.
Now I'm assuming this would only apply on communities hosted on that (or any downvote-disabled) instance, using my previous example if someone from Beehaw were to comment on a community originating
lemmy.ml, I believe they could still have their comments downvoted sincelemmy.mlwould be "hosting" the comment, so to speak.I saw it being misused on reddit a lot so I like it. It was common for people to use it as a "i disagree" button, which created a big echo chamber. I read that many people felt that there was no point even posting to a discussion since they knew they would be downvoted.
I think reddit really turned to shit, and I was hoping Lemmy could take another direction here. You can still upvote to support your opinions riding to the top without needing to downvote someone.
I understand this is a hot topic for many though. I guess it depends on what your previous experiences at reddit has been.
And also you mention the word quality control. I'm not sure the majority is some kind of a quality control. I rather hear people's opinions and make up my own mind. It would feel weird to have other people push down comments I may want to read.
Thanks for sharing this. Do you have a second admin for your instance?
It's not my instance, I just use it and like it. The instance lists only one admin. Is it common with several?
With very small instances (less than 100 members), yes, it's usually the case.
The main risk is the admin disappearing overnight, which already happened in the past for some quite big instances (vlemmy.net)
Fair point and I would assume the admin is open to sharing responsibilities once the instance grows. Can ask him. :)
@Blaze @1984 Federating with ALL other instances isn't a good prospect either...