andy1011000 Proton CEO posted:
“People honestly seem to forget that I live in Switzerland, where Republican/Democrat doesn’t mean anything, and Trump isn’t even on our ballot to be voted for…”
Onyx376. replied:
“The point is that fighting for a more just and equal society is not just about fighting for the fundamental right to privacy but also for all other fundamental rights, including individual rights and life. When you, as the CEO of a company that starts from these principles, nod positively to whatever action a political figure like Trump, who is known for always flagrantly putting his private interests ahead of those of his own nation, makes speeches about eliminating minorities, hurting their rights as citizens and flirting with Nazi movements, it is understandable that members of the privacy community are disappointed as this reveals a little about who is being the face of a company that should follow contrary principles. But now we really know what “freedom” means to you.”
I'm feeling very conflicted on this overall. I love proton and I'm not even American, but this whole fiasco is making me think of moving.
They handled this very unprofessionally, and I'm not sure if I'm comfortable trusting them anymore.
Can anyone recommend me some alternatives for some proton software?
I cancelled my proton the other day, right after his post.
As alternatives:
Im still figuring out the drive, thinking of self hosting that too.
Good luck out there.
Besides the password manager (I use Bitwarden) those are strong recommendations. Thanks
Are you happy with bitwarden? Its very tempting ... I'm just concerned about it being in the US, where some agency could "request" data.
Why not just self-host vaultwarden then? Since you seem to already selfhost other managers.
Thats because I was not informed until I read your comment. I honestly didn't know that vaultwarden is what bitwarden self-hosted is called. Thanks. Guess I was ignorant.
I'll give it a try.
Oops, sorry I didn't mean it to sound condescending, my bad.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to run, I just use their docker image.
Backup and how to secure it on the other hand is a frequent discussion on Lemny selfhosted or r/selfhosted
Also see Selfh.st for other OSS apps alternatives.
We have to bring those selfhosted guys over to db0 somehow :D
Goes hand in hand with the "Yarrisms"
Unless your master password is stolen or it is just "123" it is literally impossible to crack your vault. I've been happy with BW (even if it is in the US I'm not American so they can't even use it against me)
PS there is a European server at bitwarden.eu :)