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i want to add that this was a long-haul night train (münchen to hamburg), so no dining car, few stops, and a travel time of about 9 hours. in that circumstance, selling more tickets than there exists seating seems negligent. the bathrooms were all closed, there were no sleeping cars, there was a police inspection at four in the morning, people were propped up against every wall in the train trying to sleep in peace... it is without exception the worst experience i've ever had on a train, and i was once stuck in jörn for four hours in a train car without electricity in -30 weather. i don't understand how the separate reservation system is better in any way.
this is what i meant about the rules thing: it is expected that you know how it works, nobody will tell you, and if you do it wrong you will be yelled at and/or fined. i would much rather that the site told me "hey, you need a first-class ticket for a seat reservation in first class".
You know there is a Long Haul Night train between Munich and Hamburg with real Beds, Showers and complimentary breakfast. Or sleeping Pods if you're on a budget.
Check it out the next time. Nightjet.com
It's operated by the Austrian state railways
Otherwise the separate reservation system makes international train ticketing easier and allows for greater flexibility.
That's just common knowledge in most of European Countries. I can understand that this might confuse visitors who are used to air travel
Can you honestly justify seats in the first class being left empty, while people in the second class have nowhere to sit? There's so many ways to improve the situation here without anyone actually being hurt. Can't we all take a step back and see how crazy this actually this?
Well you can always avoid sitting on the floor by paying the 5€ for seat reservations for the entire journey during the time of booking. And if it tells you there that no more seats are available you can make an informed decision on how badly you want to be on this service and if you want to pay the first class fare.
Long-distance train journeys are unfortunately not subsidized by our moronic government so the state operator needs to earn back the money to operate the train or there will be no long distance train anymore in the future.
And our traffic minister just hiked track charges for them by 30%
So you just see absolutely no issue with those seats being kept empty while people don't have anywhere to sleep. Cool, not a sign of a broken system at all.
we were trying to keep costs down, the total trip had something like 15 changeovers, three in germany, and cost us €800.
i am european, i mostly travel by train, and we have mandatory seat reservation at no charge for intercity trains. if you don't select a seat, one is assigned to you. when there are no more seats, no more tickets are sold.
it would never in a million years occur to me that people would be left without a place to sit for a nine hour trip. that's just inhumane.
also, it would never in a million years occur to me that you could be fined for buying a ticket and a seat through the official system.
what you're describing is how regional trains work. not long haul express trains.
Sounds like an Interrail Pass would have cheaper, and more flexible
No that's how Trains in all of Europe work with the Exception of
Yeah I doubt this part seriously, unless you only travelled in the countries listed above
No it's inhumane to deny them boarding and don't transport them for hours, days weeks or months just because seats are sold out, like they do in France.
People want to get home or to their family, or an important meeting,even when they can't have a seat. (E.g. when it was spontaneous, an emergency, or they missed the last train)
Everyone can have a guaranteed seat for their entire journey for 5.20€
Yeah that's bullshit too, they won't sell you a first class seat to your second class ticket when trying to book a seat during the booking process of the ticket. You have to explicitly select first class on the Website, and then tick "I only want a seat reservation" and then it shows them to you. Also 6.50€ for a first class seat for 9h Long distance travel, would have given you a clue that this is not an upgrade. If unsure you could have asked the staff in the train which ALWAYS sits and has their office between first and second class in those trains.
we did look at interrail passes but they are not valid in my part of europe so they would have been useless for half the trip.
i've never travelled in france but here you can't buy rail tickets on intercity trains. you need to buy them beforehand. that way you're never stuck on a platform waiting for hours. regional trains go every 15 minutes and they work like you describe, with mostly tickets available.
they did sell me a seat reservation, and i did not react to any messaging that told me it was wrong. i still have the receipts.
i did see that office, but it was closed for the entire trip. we tried finding someone to ask but as previously mentioned it was after midnight and there seemed to be only two people working the entire train.
What is your part of Europe?