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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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'Why Can't I Have This?' America's TikTok Refugees Discover China's EVs (insideevs.com)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

What a crock of shit. They're $15k because the government is paying for the rest of the car, they control the lithium, they don't give a shit about environmental regulations, and they use slave labor to produce these materials and cars. The only way any other manufacturer in the world can compete with this is if they also do all those things too. If they choose not to commit such atrocities, they'll go out of business, leaving us completely reliant on Chinese auto manufacturers for all our needs with millions of Americans out of work. This isn't a "US car" thing. No other country is producing cars in such a manor. US manufacturers only make up 30% of the market here.

This is just a bunch of vapid influences being manipulated and then spreading it to all their followers like a virus. They won't see anything past the fake cheap price and demand the Walmartification of ever more US manufacturing jobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

They're $15k because the government is paying for the rest of the car

The only way any other manufacturer in the world can compete with this is if they also do all those things too

How about just that one thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Can you explain in detail how that's possible for them to accomplish?

[–] PuddleOfKittens 1 points 3 weeks ago

Depending on your definition of "possible":

Unban kei cars. Cars are cheaper if there's less car.
Build more public transport (particularly trains, electric of course) so more people don't need cars, then tax ICE cars heavily
Make all greenfield street grids use narrow streets (that means a max width of 6m(20ft) wall-to-wall, for 80% of streets) and over time convert existing grids likewise, which (strongly increases pedestrianism and) encourages any urban car drivers to drive kei cars.
If most drivers of big cars are rural, then let the big ag subsidies cover it. Although honestly, if urban drivers stop driving cars (and ~80-90% of people are urban (that includes suburban)), then we're 80-90% of the way there anyway, and the last 10% doesn't matter.

Point 2 and 3 would require major political buy-in (and they're also sort of the same step anyway), which strains the definition of possible. But it's quite financially feasible.

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