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    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    Mint fixes that. Based on Ubuntu, it intentionally disables Snap, and all apt commands actually use apt.

    Or yes, just straight up use Debian if you don't mind older apps outside Flatpaks.

    [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    LMDE, Linux Mint Debian Edition was my goto for a long time.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I'm interested in what made you choose LMDE over stock Debian

    Is it because you found the UI more convenient and organized? Or was it before Debian 12 and you wanted to avoid technical difficulties with nonfree software?

    [–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

    Yeah, this was around the time they first released it. Back then I had issues with downloading and installing Debian, regardless of drivers. I was inexperienced, and was using Mint (ubuntu-based) already, so the UI (gtk2, mate) was a huge plus for my restricted specs (a netbook)

    [–] RvTV95XBeo 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Except I just uninstalled Mint's default Firefox because whatever additional theming they did to my boy fucked up the right click context menu. FF is now flatpak.

    [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

    I'm pretty sure Mozilla encourages use of the flatpak. Flatpak FF is definitely the way to go.

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

    Firefox isn't in the repos of Debian, so any derivative (derivative (derivative)) distro must deal with that in some way.

    [–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You can also install Linux Mint Debian Edition which isn't based on Ubuntu at all.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Note that on the negative side it inherits most of the issues of Debian, including extremely old packages.

    Also, Debian 12 finally got very user-friendly enough to the point I would recommend it over LMDE.

    [–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That's true, but if you want you can change to testing repos. I still prefer it over vanilla Debian due to polish. I find even using Cinnamon DE in Debian it's just rougher around the edges than Mint.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

    Fair enough - if you're a fan of Cinnamon, LMDE will always be a bit more polished. I can see your use case :)

    [–] fnrir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

    Happy cake day!

    [–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    This is the way. Debian net install. Or even better, boot over iPXE, ephemeral kernel in RAM with only backups and static binaries written to disk. Snapshotting handled by BTRFS

    [–] Doxin@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Use debian testing if you want up-to-date software. The name implies it's unstable, but it's really not. Debian stable absurdly stable, and debian testing is regular stable.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    True, but if something's actually wrong, you'll have less support with that. But I know many people run it without major issues.