Turns out, the 4 Thieves almost exclusively discussed harm reduction through testing today at 38C3! Twas quite hormone-centric in nature as well, which is based. I did not know that T is so cottage-cheesey, or E is super flat-clumpy, but meow I do lol...
I think the shock-value presentation, and some of their past mistakes gave me a lot worse impression than they deserve, tbh. It seems like they have the right idea, and also promote finding conclusions thru legitimate past research, rather than "trust me bro" shit.
I had to look it up. The closest thing I've played is Citizen Sleeper.
I am not planning on posting on 196 again though, probably. I just decided to correct my extreme skeptisim against some allies, and share a meme-esque image.
Stellaris does look awesome though.