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Short answer: yes. Long answer: yes.
BTW, F16s are not as the article says 5th gen fighters. They are 4th gen, and early blocks at that. they are almost discards. They are obsolete fighters that are being replaced by modern fighters by the nations donating them. There is no goody goodness here. Ukraine is being used to use up old stock to replenish with shinier stuff.
Have European countries sent Eurofighters, or Rafales, or Leopards 2A6s? Hmmm....
Those F-16 fighters could have been sold instead of giving them away.
I'm from Denmark, and I find it absolutely disgusting that you try to diminish our help to Ukraine in that way.
The delivery of those planes required a lot of training and preparations, and we are also helping with maintenance. And I expect other donor countries are doing the same.
Ukraine wanted these fighters very much, and they have actively saved Ukrainian lives. Shooting down Russian missiles.
Yes the fact that F-16 is being replaced makes it easier to give them to Ukraine, as replacements are already ordered.
But the thing is, the stuff we give to Ukraine needs to be available relatively quickly. And something not made yet cannot be quickly delivered.
Denmark also gave Ukraine all of our bran new artillery direct from factories in France.
Ukraine is definitely not just receiving old discarded shit. And although F-16 is old, it's not obsolete, especially not to defend against Russian equipment.
So please piss off with such offensive comments.
Additionally, F-16s are good 4th gen fighters, and can still launch standoff weapons with proper setup. Russia really only has 4th gen fighters anyways. Maintaining them is dependent on availability of parts and mechanical skill, which I cannot speak to, but hope it's included somewhere in the aid packages. They are by no means discards. Speaking from my armchair milsim experience (Arma 3 lol) they are still quite advanced with a substantial weapons loadout capability. And I imagine US aircraft carriers still keep some fa/18s and f16s onboard.
The f-16 ought to be able to go up against anything Russia can field presently.
Ukraine can
Buyit’s on f35s when it joins NATO