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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Creating abstract art by moving pixels around is not anywhere close to what we mean by image generation. At no point did this other software generate something from a prompt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

in any way shape or form

I'd normally accept the challenge if you didn't add that. You did though and it, namely a system (arguably intelligent) made an image, several images in fact. The fact that we dislike or like the aesthetics of it or that the way it was done (without prompt) is different than how it currently is remains irrelevant according to your own criteria, which is none. Anyway my point with AARON isn't about this piece of work specifically, rather that there is prior work, and this one is JUST an example. Consequently the starting point is wrong.

Anyway... even if you did question this, I argued for more, showing that I did try numerous (more than 50) models, including very current ones. It even makes me curious if you, who is arguing for the capabilities and their progress, if you tried more models than I did and if so where can I read about it and what you learned about such attempts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's irrelevant because it wasn't a precursor technique. The precursor was machine learning research, not other image generation technology

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So LLMs can trace their origin back to the 2017 paper "Attention is all you need", they with diffusion models have enabled prompt based image generation at an impressive quality.

However, looking at just image generation you have GANs as far back as 2014 with style GANs (ones that you could more easily influence) dating back to 2018. While diffusion models also date back to 2015, I don't see any mention of use in images until early 2020's.

Thats also ignoring that all of these technologies go back further to lstms and CNNs, which go back further into other NLP/CV technologies. So there has been a lot of progress here, but progress isn't also always linear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

You can see with image generation progress was extremely quick