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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I mean, if someone tries to “man in the middle”, or maskerade as my website, the trusted stuff will not add any security.

As long as they can obtain a certificate signed by a trusted signer for your name, you are correct. And you are touching on a real issue here. The number of trusted signers in the browser stores is large, and if only one can be tricked or compromised, then the MitM can generate a certificate your browser would trust just as well as your own original one.

If someone hacks my site [...]

then it's over anyway, yes. The signature on the certificate only validates your TLS key as being one that was properly assigned to the holder of your domain name. Once the endpoint is compromised, TLS doesn't matter anymore.

if the browsers weren’t locked down

Actually maybe they aren't as locked down as you think. To my knowledge you can add your own signing key certificates to your local installation of Firefox, Chrome and the Windows cert storage. In fact there are companies who do this a lot. They Man-in-the-Middle all their employees, with a proxy that does security scanning. For this reason they will deploy their signing keys internally. So the browsers still work. You can use these mechanisms for yourself if you like.

Example documentation: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/setting-certificate-authorities-firefox