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"Sam Altman is one of the dullest, most incurious and least creative people to walk this earth." (deadsimpletech.com)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 22 hours ago (53 children)

Let's be real here: when people hear the word AI or LLM they don't think of any of the applications of ML that you might slap the label "potentially useful" on (notwithstanding the fact that many of them also are in a all-that-glitters-is-not-gold--kinda situation). The first thing that comes to mind for almost everyone is shitty autoplag like ChatGPT which is also what the author explicitly mentions.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 22 hours ago (52 children)

I'm saying ChatGPT is not useless.

I'm a senior software engineer and I make use of it several times a week either directly or via things built on top of it. Yes you can't trust it will be perfect, but I can't trust a junior engineer to be perfect either—code review is something I've done long before AI and will continue to do long into the future.

I empirically work quicker with it than without and the engineers I know who are still avoiding it work noticeably slower. If it was useless this would not be the case.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (34 children)

I’m a senior software engineer

ah, a señor software engineer. excusé-moi monsoir, let me back up and try once more to respect your opinion

uh, wait:

but I can’t trust a junior engineer to be perfect either

whoops no, sorry, can't do it.

jesus fuck I hope the poor bastards that are under you find some other place real soon, you sound like a godawful leader

and the engineers I know who are still avoiding it work noticeably slower

yep yep! as we all know, velocity is all that matters! crank that handle, produce those features! the factory must flow!!

fucking christ almighty. step away from the keyboard. go become a logger instead. your opinions (and/or the shit you're saying) is a big part of everything that's wrong with industry.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

and the engineers I know who are still avoiding it work noticeably slower

yep yep! as we all know, velocity is all that matters! crank that handle, produce those features! the factory must flow!!

and you fucking know what? it's not even just me being a snide motherfucker, this rant is literally fucking supported by data:

The survey found that 75.9% of respondents (of roughly 3,000* people surveyed) are relying on AI for at least part of their job responsibilities, with code writing, summarizing information, code explanation, code optimization, and documentation taking the top five types of tasks that rely on AI assistance. Furthermore, 75% of respondents reported productivity gains from using AI.

...

As we just discussed in the above findings, roughly 75% of people report using AI as part of their jobs and report that AI makes them more productive.

And yet, in this same survey we get these findings:

if AI adoption increases by 25%, time spent doing valuable work is estimated to decrease 2.6% if AI adoption increases by 25%, estimated throughput delivery is expected to decrease by 1.5% if AI adoption increases by 25%, estimated delivery stability is expected to decrease by 7.2%

and that's a report sponsored and managed right from the fucking lying cloud company, no less. a report they sponsor, run, manage, and publish is openly admitting this shit. that is how much this shit doesn't fucking work the way you sell it to be doing.

but no, we should trust your driveby bullshit. motherfucker.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Lol, using a survey to try and claim that your argument is "supported by data".

Of course the people who use Big Autocorrect think it's useful, they're still using it. You've produced a tautology and haven't even noticed. XD

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

christ, did someone fire up the Batpromptfondler signal

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

it may be a shock to learn this, but asking people things is how you find things out from them

I know it requires speaking to humans, alas, c’est la vie

[–] [email protected] -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It may be a shock to learn this, but asking people things is how you find out what they think, not what is true.

I know proof requires more than just speaking to humans, alas, c'est la vie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

did you know the report also publishes the details of its analysis methodology?

my god, where are you people coming from today

[–] [email protected] -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Did you know that all reputable surveys publish their methodology?

Did you know that, regardless of how you analyze the results, a survey is still just a survey?

If LLMs were worth the hype then you'd have actual proof of utility, not just sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is a pretty funny interaction when you realise that you just misread the froztbyte's self-reply (and the survey) as pro-AI, so you were just aggressively agreeing with each other all along