Talking about you mr phil.
this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2023
1261 points (98.1% liked)
Memes
45772 readers
1639 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's not exactly "the same thing" though. One encourages direct violence. Dr. Phil presumably does not. One component of exploitation being comparable is not the same as totally equal.
He often sent kids to "trouble teen" camps, so he definitely encouraged direct violence.
Sending a kid to a ranch, or rehab facility, or "camps" isn't direct violence. If I send my kids to summer camp, I'm not punching them in the face. There is a difference... and the fact that you can't identify that and 4 other people upvoted you speaks about our current societies problems.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that kids who are struggling to find where they fit in the world and have a family network that isn't helping them with that struggle deserve to go to a cult indoctrination camp to be tortured. I guess physical and psychological torture doesn't count as direct violence either. Cool, cool cool cool
But if you direct people to forcibly take a kid to a camp that uses face punching as a "therapeutic" treatment, while endorsing said camp with your national platform...
Technically that might not be "direct" violence, but it is pretty direct indirect violence.
You should read up on Turn-About Ranch, where he sent teens. There was direct violence, they're facing multiple allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse by former attendees.
I think you are not aware how troubled teen industry is run at least in the US. Just so you are aware that they are places full of physical, sexual and mental abuse. It is like you sent your kids to a camp but instead of summer camp, it was a refugee or concentration camp.