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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because "clean your room" was never actually about the benefits of cleaning your room. It was a transparent attempt to make people not look at systemic problems with society.

The irony, of course, being that his personal life is a total fucking mess, and yet he doesn't listen to his own lesson and focus on himself, he spends enormous amounts of effort telling other people not to worry about systemic problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s actually an argument about the complexity of the systematic problems with society.

Basically, if the systematic problems of society are more complex than the mess in your room. Therefore if you don’t have the energy, precision, care, and attention to clean your room, whatever model of society you’re using to judge it is woefully inadequate to actually describe or understand the problem and you need to recognize you’re about to fuck up in a major way by shadow boxing against the ultra-simplified version of the problem you keep in your head.

It’s kind of like saying “Oh you want to eat a bowling ball? Here eat this golf ball first. Don’t want to eat the golf ball? Too big to swallow? Great, now rethink your plan of eating that bowling ball, which is far bigger than the golf ball.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No, I understand that that's the angle his supporters would use to justify the take. The problem is it's just bs.

Improving systems just doesn't have anything to do with one's personal life. I was going to give examples, but honestly it's just such utter nonsense I didn't know where to start. It would be like trying to explain to someone who didn't agree the sky is blue.

The actual effect of Peterson's nonsense is to discourage people from advocating for greater systemic change. Which shouldn't be surprising from someone as extremely socially regressive as Peterson.