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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Nothing is free. How would they make money as a company to pay employees and pay hosting bills?

All these big tech companies are free exactly because they are preditory on users.

Pay for good email like Fastmail or Proton.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Proton, which you just mentioned, also has a free tier, which is just as usable as Gmail is for 90% of people, myself included.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Proton's free tier is a step to right direction, and at least they don't run a huge advertisement company that could benefit from the free tier users' data. And if you pay for Proton Unlimited, you also get access to SimpleLogin's Premium tier which is nice. I just found this out when I finally bit the bullet and changed away from Gmail over to Proton. Now I don't have to expose my real email address to some random never-to-be-seen-again websites or campaigns if I don't want to.

If one has enough motivation, time and interest in purchasing their own domain, you can get one step forward with changing away from Gmail. Then you can pay something like 5€/month for Proton Mail Plus, use your own domain as your email address and if one day you find a better email provider, you could just change the MX records for that service and wouldn't have to go through all your accounts and update the new address to all the places.

I had pondered moving away from Gmail years and years ever since I found out Google doesn't have any real customer support and HN had stories where people had suddenly been locked out of their Google accounts because of some silly reason and couldn't get their accounts back without some inside connections. At one point most of my digital life was at the mercy of Google and losing access to my Gmail or Google Calendar or G Drive would have been a disaster. Reading all these web-DRM news reminded me that I should continue de-googlefying my life and finally made the change. Firefox has been my primary browser for years and I moved over to iPhone with my phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand the sentiment, but email is a necessary part of modern life and not everyone has the luxury of paying for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of things are necessary parts of modern live and you also have to pay for it, a mobile plan for your smartphone for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a smartphone but not a mobile plan for years. People can get very creative when times are tough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't get me wrong, I think everybody should have the guarantee for social participation, I'm just saying that Email is no exception. If you did not have a mobile plan for whatever reason, you were just not participating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really; I could do everything everyone else was doing; just not make phone calls or send sms texts. I used wifi to connect to the net and I could still make emergency calls. Im actually considering going back to that to save money, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well I know you're talking about cutting the cord completely, but if you're in the us TMobile (micro-shilling for a second) has a $15 unlimited talk/text and 2.5g of data prepaid that I used for a few years (until I upgraded) but since I was mostly on wifi it was absolutely viable

Also I guess the sentiment here is to de-google , but I've had my Google voice number for over a decade and I've used that as my primary number even when I haven't had a cell phone provider. I use it for texting and calling and can use it on the PC in a browser window

Alright shilling over, but I guess my point is there's that route or I'm sure countless other options that are more secure you can use so you don't have to do without calling/texting

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Nah then gmail is good enough.