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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We're going to have to agree to disagree here. Especially your last point. To be honest it REALLY sounds like you support the law, and if you cared about factual reporting you would have also released the policy memo that shows Republicans want to use this to stop puberty blockers which are very basic trans care. So you're not doing this for "truth"

Cost in terms of TIME is the MAIN factor we should judge our politicians on. What did they spend their 2/4 years on and how much did they accomplish? This addition to the military funding bill is a complete waste. A shameful waste. I don't know who would argue cost and time isn't a measure for the quality of politicians.

I'm in a country with universal healthcare and laws play very little role in the practice of medicine. Doctors have a professional association they have to be licensed by. This association does the job of ensuring doctors act in line with public interest. I'm sure Americans have the same thing. Likely one for each state. Which brings me to your last point. It's pretty intellectually dishonest to frame doctors as mad scientist lobotomists barely restrained by a set of laws. In reality doctors independently look out for the public interest. If they did what they were legally allowed to without morals we'd all be fucked. So no, laws AREN'T what "protects us" from doctors.

I don't think what you're SAYING matches what you BELIEVE. Your use of exaggeration, incomplete information, and outlier anecdotal stories paints a clear pattern of intentional deception under a thin veneer of "intellectual superiority"

Looking through your comment history you've got a lot of backwards conservative/incel beliefs like "sex workers are predatory", "tax dollars not spent to directly benefit YOU are a waste", I could go on. The point is it's pretty clear "trans kids don't deserve healthcare" is one of them and you're just getting better at hiding these beliefs to avoid downvotes.

And I'm sure you're going to come out and say I'm exaggerating your points or misrepresenting you. I'm not. You talk like a conservative, you say we need laws like this to protect us from doctors experimenting and lobotomizing us. But you don't care that laws aren't what's doing the protecting in those situations. And when someone points out your framing of doctors and medicine vs politicians is unfair you'll say "I didn't say ALL doctors blah blah blah, you're making a straw man". Human speech includes context and implication, to argue it doesn't is intellectually dishonest. Conservatives always IMPLY things because then they can say "well I didn't SAY that". You did. Implication is speech, that's high school English.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

To be honest it REALLY sounds like you support the law

I am leaning towards not sterlising minors being a good thing because it is a life altering decision that Im not convinced a minor can make.

If you can’t be trusted to responsibly consume alcohol how can you be trusted to choose to be sterilised?

if you cared about factual reporting you would have also released the policy memo

I don’t follow US politics closely enough to be aware of the memo but I did read about the actual policy that was passed. As for banning puberty blockers, that isn’t what was passed by 81 Democrats.

I'm in a country with universal healthcare and laws play very little role in the practice of medicine.

Name the country and I will disprove your claim. Healthcare is always political, from the structure (public vs private) to what care is legal.

It's pretty intellectually dishonest to frame doctors as mad scientist lobotomists barely restrained by a set of laws

It is even more dishonest to ignore history, the people who suffered and the progress that was made largely through changes to laws. Sometimes as a result of activism or protest.

you've got a lot of backwards conservative/incel beliefs

That’s amusing, Im married with children, vote left and support Unions

"tax dollars not spent to directly benefit YOU are a waste"

Wrong. Government spending that doesn’t benefit society as a whole is wasteful. There are never enough funds to sort every problem out and the particular topic you’re referring to here was a change by a centre left government that I support.

But you don't care that laws aren't what's doing the protecting in those situations.

Go open a history book. That’s exactly what the laws are doing. You talk like someone with zero understanding of how governments work, or the history that has shaped governments and the systems they govern.