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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Use Signal or XMPP+OMEMO or anything else.

Mandate social media to expose an open API and use the chat function with an OTR plugin.

The solutions are all old.

It's just interesting how it all went from promotion of corporate surveillance to comms protection when supposed corporate shills won the election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would be great if XMPP were to rise again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It went out of popularity for a reason. I'd love a new protocol with XMPP's mistakes fixed.

BTW, OMEMO highlights one of those - it's not as good as Signal by which it is inspired. Basically no metadata protection, which means that it's as good as OTR with multiple devices.

Some kind of Signal with federation (and good clients, not like signal-desktop) would be interesting. Maybe even p2p with some kind of relays (like in NOSTR) for history, offline messages, some kind of Telegram channels and such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Look into Session. I didn't like it but it checks your boxes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why do you suggest OTR? It's outdated, modern XMPP clients moved to OMEMO for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It's not outdated, it's just differently intended. OTR you can use over any IM allowing custom clients. OMEMO requires support in the protocol.

OTR is better than inline PGP for that purpose, because of temporary keys.

So if you have a legislation mandating that a certain IM network or social platform supports open API for custom clients, you can use OTR over it, you can use inline PGP over it, but you can't use OMEMO over it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago